Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by gotchange on Friday November 13, 2015 @07:57PM
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I believe that France didn't open its borders to this wave of refugees/migrants but I could be mistaken since I don't follow the news this closely.
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Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by cm2187 on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:01PM
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France cannot really control the wave of migrants anyway. But it is unlikely that the terrorists are one of these migrants. My guess is that they were French nationals/residents.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by AlexB138 on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:09PM
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>My guess is that they were French nationals/residents.
Based on what? I'm pretty uninformed here, and it seems like a lot of people are bringing up refugees. Curious why you think the opposite.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by cm2187 on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:14PM
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We do not know yet the identities of the terrorists, so only a guess based on the previous three years of attacks in France.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by cm2187 on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:28PM
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also the TVs are mentioning terrorists speaking French, which if confirmed strongly support this guess.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by aikah on Friday November 13, 2015 @09:31PM
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What he means is french muslims , which are nationals/residents. Charlie Hebdo attackers were french nationals, though having a north african/african background.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by cm2187 on Friday November 13, 2015 @09:38PM
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Almost certainly. But it does make a difference. Most French muslims come from Algeria and Marrocco and can't really claim to have been affected by the war in Syria. There are deeper roots to home grown terrorism than the Syrian conflict.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by rihegher on Saturday November 14, 2015 @01:51AM
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At least they speaks french according to witnesses
http://www.mediapart.fr/journal/france/131115/paris-frappe-p...
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by apetresc on Saturday November 14, 2015 @01:51AM
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There were eyewitness reports that the gunmen were talking to each other in French. So, that's something. If they were recently-arrived refugees that probably wouldn't be the case, though it doesn't rule out long-term embedded groups.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by jacquesm on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:32PM
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France is part of the Schengen area so there were no borders to open. The signs read 'Bienvenue en France'...
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by jules on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:05PM
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What do you mean by that? The border between France and neighboring nations is always open.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by gotchange on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:26PM
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It's open but that doesn't mean that everyone who shows up at the gate will be allowed in, right?
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by bensandcastle on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:40PM
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There are no gates. There is a sign. http://travel.jeffersoncampervan.com/Pictures/PixoriginalSit...
Cross border travel within the EU is like moving between states in the US, easy to miss.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by gotchange on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:51PM
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What about airports?
I'm very positive that they check people's passports and papers in airports.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by kalleboo on Friday November 13, 2015 @11:09PM
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Only if you're arriving from outside of Schengen. Within Schengen, there are only ID checks if the airline themselves have them there to avoid ticket resales.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by the_french on Friday November 13, 2015 @09:04PM
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The vast majority of European travellers use trains or roads, not air travel.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by saryant on Saturday November 14, 2015 @01:16AM
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Actually, air travel is the most common mode of transport in intra-EU travel.
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...
Trains are a tiny 6%.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by acjohnson55 on Saturday November 14, 2015 @12:18AM
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Sometimes. About 5 years ago, I walked off a plane from Baltimore to Rome and out of the airport like it was a domestic flight. No stamp or anything.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by darkr on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:35PM
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Under normal circumstances there is no gate to speak of.
Re:Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
by saryant on Friday November 13, 2015 @08:36PM
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Have you crossed a French land border lately? There are no controls. There are no gates between France and other Schengen countries.