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Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by mikeyouse on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @03:02AM (#10417828)
It's Aaron Swartz and he in no way was facing "50+ years". The cumulative max sentence is in no way representative of what the potential or likely sentence will look like. He was likely facing ~6 months based on the charges against him. Here's a good article about why this is the case;

https://popehat.com/2015/10/08/bad-reporting-on-matthew-keys...

Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by ckozlowski on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @07:13AM (#10418477)
When I the beginning of this discussion line, I made a point to look up this Popehat article. Continued reading to see that you found it. =)

Popehat (a group blog run by geek lawyers) is really fantastic for getting into the nuts and bolts of criminal law, and I cannot recommend it to HN readers enough.

Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by mikeyouse on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @01:53PM (#10420653)
Yeah, I love their site. They do a ton of work on first amendment, free speech, and anti-SLAPP cases and will sometimes provide pro bono representation for the right cause. It also helps that they clearly explain all of the procedure and standards they're adhering to.
Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by vpkaihla on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @07:53AM (#10418604)
For a person who isn't a hardened criminal and hasn't done anything wrong, just the knowledge of being the focus of a huge investigation is more than enough to cause mental trouble.
Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by yc1010 on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @07:26AM (#10418524)
6 months would have pretty much destroyed his life, especially when it comes to getting a job
Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by dogma1138 on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @11:33PM (#10423539)
Not really, if you apply for a "traditional" unskilled/semi-skilled job yes, but in this case nope...

Given his abilities and renown he would find a job both despite and because of his would be conviction.

There are plenty of "security experts" that started as hackers/crackers and with time served on their records that don't have issue finding a job.

If you apply to Walmart with a record well GL, but in Tech hmm you've hacked into the DOD? well how about 6 figures + equity if you come work for us...

The guy was part of the RSS working group at what 14 and part of the RDF group at W3C at 15? If he would not have tragically ended his life he would've ended up working for Google or any other tech company he would choose to work for regardless of his conviction.

Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by loopdoend on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @03:46AM (#10417934)
It doesn't matter. They threatened him with it. They didn't threaten this DEA goon with it. His union lawyers or whatever made sure of it. It was real to Aaron.
Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @12:36PM (#10420198)
> It doesn't matter. They threatened him with it. They didn't threaten this DEA goon with it.

Even if that's true (for which no evidence is presented), the DEA agent, being a federal law enforcement professional, probably understands federal sentencing, so probably wouldn't be susceptible to threats that can only work on someone who doesn't understand that.

> His union lawyers or whatever made sure of it.

I am sure that any competent criminal defense lawyer makes both the theoretical maximum and the likely real sentences clear to their clients, yes. That's actually a good thing, I would say. Not, of course, that information on this is particularly hard to find even for reasonably intelligent laypersons with access to public information.

Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by ryanlol on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @04:30AM (#10418063)
Uh, what the fuck? Seriously? This guy was both facing a higher THEORETICAL maximum than Aaron, and got a significantly higher sentence than Aaron could have ever received.

And no, Aaron was definitely not "threatened" with 50 years. Where are you getting that from?

Re:Ex-U.S. agent gets over six years for Bitcoin theft in Si... by notahacker on Tuesday October 20, 2015 @07:09AM (#10418462)
And your evidence for this is?

Force faced a cumulative maximum sentence of sixty years and $750k in fines. He opted to plead guilty. There's no particular reason to believe the plea bargaining process was friendly. He got six years, and the prosecution argued for more.