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Re:YC Research by sama on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:25PM (#10347896)
For now they are going to be hand-selected by me (the area we are starting with requires pretty specific domain expertise). Not sure what we'll do in the future.
Re:YC Research by rsync on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:39PM (#10348478)
"For now they are going to be hand-selected by me (the area we are starting with requires pretty specific domain expertise). Not sure what we'll do in the future."

Two words: baseband processor.

The world really, really needs a fully open baseband processor.

Re:YC Research by tlb on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @05:02PM (#10349077)
It really does. But that seems like a mission for a startup, not a research organization. The challenges are more engineering and business than science.

If someone wants to apply with an open baseband processor startup, applications are due Oct 13!

Re:YC Research by cambion on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @04:32PM (#10348863)
It's true that we need an open baseband processor, but I wonder if this qualifies as the sort of blue-sky research that I'm guessing they'll want to focus on?

My feeling is that the software to accomplish this is already largely there, but the hard part of getting a design to the fab and actually getting anyone to adopt it isn't.

I think there would also be a number of regulatory hurdles to cross, since this would end up being essentially an SDR, and the FCC (for example) already seems to fear wide public availability for those.

Re:YC Research by Natsu on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @04:59PM (#10349054)
They only care if you can make it work on channels it shouldn't, they don't care whether the code that controls it is open or not.

But yes, an open processor could help with a lot of open networking problems, even though it seems more like an engineering matter than research per se.

Re:YC Research by vezzy-fnord on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @06:42PM (#10349643)
I thought the issue there was primarily legal, not technical.

We have OsmocomBB, but it's limited to the 2G standard and comes with a ton of usage caveats pertaining to regulatory compliance and legality.

Re:YC Research by srean on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:34PM (#10347963)
Any helpful teasers on what that domain might be ?
Re:YC Research by BinaryIdiot on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:39PM (#10348010)
Sam has expressed his desired to get really good AI to become a thing. Since YC does a ton of tech I'd bet $10 it's AI.

But of course this is just my useless speculation :)

Re:YC Research by mrdrozdov on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:50PM (#10348104)
25 years is a reasonable number for how long it took deep learning research to begin getting traction. I would think AI would be a strange choice since it seems like there are a lot of research opportunities in academia and industry for this topic, but for the same reason I would say AI research is ripe for disruption.
Re:YC Research by rezistik on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:22PM (#10348353)
My bet is on renewable energy/sustainability, agriculture or biotech, with energy being my first choice. Sam has expressed serious concern about powering the future. His first(only?) deviations from the "No Board Seat" policy were two energy companies.
Re:YC Research by InquilineKea on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @04:11PM (#10348701)
How would funding AI through YC Research be different from what MIRI and FLI do?
Re:YC Research by mtraven on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @08:01PM (#10349998)
Well, they mostly support research designed to prevent harmful AI, which is important but hardly the only or best approach to AI research.
Re:YC Research by waterlesscloud on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:47PM (#10348070)
He's also chairman of the board for two nuclear power companies. And YC itself has been branching into biotech and hardware and other science-y companies. Anything seems possible to me.
Re:YC Research by acidburnNSA on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:22PM (#10348358)
My money's on nuclear. Advanced nuclear designs regularly claim 25 year timeframes for design, qualification testing, licensing activities, supply chain development, and construction. Transatomic is proposing concepts that require long qualification and licensing developments, many of which could make meaningful progress in a small lab with a $10M initial budget. You have to produce your salt fuel and do materials testing with surrogate fission products (e.g. stable isotopes) over long periods of time. They also have to do hydride transport experiments which can be done on a pretty small scale.
Re:YC Research by acidburnNSA on Thursday October 08, 2015 @01:21AM (#10351038)
Whoops, I mean UPower, not Transatomic
Re:YC Research by DrNuke on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @07:32PM (#10349891)
Exciting times ahead!
Re:YC Research by jerf on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:07PM (#10348245)
A 25-year estimate for how long it will take them to develop an AI that will be able to create biological organisms that utilize nuclear power directly? Sounds reasonable.
Re:YC Research by nmrm2 on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:46PM (#10348065)
Nuclear would also make sense? AI might make more sense becaues nuclear seems like a hard place to do "heretical" research, but what do I know
Re:YC Research by acidburnNSA on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:17PM (#10348324)
Nuclear makes sense. The fluid-fueled nuclear company he's the chairman of (Transatomic) is considered at least slightly heretical by the nuclear industry, which is used to its solid fuel water-cooled reactors. They also use used nuclear fuel (i.e. transuranics in nuclear waste) as fuel, which could be called heretical because recycling nuclear waste was once outlawed in the US by Jimmy Carter (but it no longer is illegal).
Re:YC Research by hugh4 on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:32PM (#10348429)
Trouble is that the amounts of money we're talking about don't go far in nuclear research.
Re:YC Research by acidburnNSA on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:51PM (#10348551)
I think $10M can go pretty far in basic feasibility studies needed for the Transatomic reactor. You need a bunch of diffusion couple experiments and hydride stability studies. Lots of furnaces, fume hoods, and surrogate fission products. But you're right that when you get to major component qualification then yeah, $10M is nothing.
Re:YC Research by acidburnNSA on Thursday October 08, 2015 @01:21AM (#10351040)
I meant UPower, not Transatomic. Whoops!
Re:YC Research by robotresearcher on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @04:50PM (#10348993)
AI is not really lacking for funding and research activity right now.
Re:YC Research by T-A on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @05:41PM (#10349313)
Safe AI [1], on the other hand, has [2] running on < $1M and [3] running on $10M (!) from Musk. Throw in Yudkowsky's recently expressed interest in startups [4] and you can guess what I am guessing.

[1] http://blog.samaltman.com/machine-intelligence-part-1

[2] https://intelligence.org/donate/

[3] http://futureoflife.org/AI/AI_beneficial

[4] http://hpmor.com/notes/119/

Re:YC Research by srean on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:51PM (#10348111)
Now if that "AI" were to be changed to "machine learning" that would indeed make me perk up.
Re:YC Research by mrdrozdov on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @03:04PM (#10348216)
Is there any way that AI does not include machine learning?
Re:YC Research by MBlume on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @05:17PM (#10349173)
I think "we’ll have a process in place to address technology that could be dangerous" is a pretty strong hint, but it would apply about equally well to AI or nuclear, which are already the top guesses in this thread.
Re:YC Research by urs2102 on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:32PM (#10347948)
@sama - Interesting, I definitely think the toss up between meaningful research and high paying engineering work is very broken. You mentioned how compensation will not be determined based on conferences and papers, do you have any specifics on how you would measure "quality of output"? Will researchers be compensated differently based on said quality?

(As often times the quality of research output is hard to gauge immediately without the greater context of time passing)

Re:YC Research by sama on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @02:51PM (#10348113)
Definitely still a work in a progress on how we'll measure it.
Re:YC Research by materialsguy on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @04:00PM (#10348609)
ARPA-E (The Advanced Research Projects Agency for Energy, http://arpa-e.energy.gov/) has some interesting models on how to encourage meaningful innovation tied to continued funding. Might be worth a look. Same with DARPA.
Re:YC Research by chimtim on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @10:08PM (#10350467)
Hand-selecting a bunch of famous folks results in IAS Princeton effect which has the criticism of producing nothing significant. Usually the approach of hiring a towering/inspiring figure with an emerging research view works well (like FB did). They bring along a bunch of rookies and experts, and set up research groups quickly and rather smoothly.