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Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by Mikeb85 on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @10:21PM (#10343841)
Is he? I see a lot of MacBooks and tablets of non-Microsoft origin these days. Half the ThinkPads I see aren't running Windows...

When you talk development, its almost always on Linux or OSX, and deployed to a Linux server.

MS still holds on to a few markets, and still makes money and does cool things, but they're just not dominant anymore...

Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by Frondo on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @10:26PM (#10343869)
Anecdotally, I've just moved over from Linux development to Microsoft, for web stuff. Visual studio and F# are sweet, in some ways I feel like I've been living in the dark ages of development.

A year ago I wouldn't have imagined myself saying this, but once they started open sourcing their stuff, I decided to take a look.

Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by doctaj on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @10:31PM (#10343888)
I completely agree. You are missing out on a modern AND mature development platform using Microsoft stuff.
Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by eggy on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @12:41AM (#10344214)
I second that. F* language from MS with dependent types, and compiles to F# and OCaml. I finally gave MS Visual Studio CE a try, and I am blown away. I come from an Emacs/Slime/Lisp(SBCL) on Windows, not Linux, and now that MS has open sourced a lot of it, I am going to stick with it and see if I hit any blocks. Popularity or cool are not my guides. I do have Linux and Mac OS X at home too, but I am always on my Windows notebook.
Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by Mikeb85 on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @10:33PM (#10343893)
Just curious, are you deploying on Windows Server?
Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by Frondo on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @12:16AM (#10344155)
Don't know yet, I think it'll depend on how hard it is for me to get it running on Apache + mod_mono. Reason being, I do have a VPS with about 30 other sites (mostly Wordpress) right now.

If I can keep using my existing server for this new project, for now, then that's great. I know I'll eventually have to migrate it onto its own thing (it's a startup that is taking off, go me! :) ), but until I absolutely have to, I want to keep costs down and processes simple.

Still, if I've got to deploy to an MS-based VPS, that's certainly not the end of the world, not by a long shot. Just a different thing to learn.

Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by dogma1138 on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @01:37AM (#10344341)
If you are going to use Apache and mono there is no reason to deploy a Windows server.

IIS performance on the other hand is amazing these days, Apache really needs to find a way to use http.sys.

Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by WorldWideWayne on Wednesday October 07, 2015 @04:51PM (#10349002)
I do Node.js stuff in Visual Studio. It's better than anything.
Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by aggieben on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @10:57PM (#10343969)
"almost always"?

Really? Even in the server space, Windows still occupies a third of the market, and desktop statistics are somewhere more along the lines of 70%. For every "cool" startup developer, I can promise you there is an entire army of "not cool" developers doing things in Windows (or whatever).

Re:Microsoft is Dead (2007) by douche on Tuesday October 06, 2015 @11:08PM (#10344002)
Raise a glass to the non-cool developers!

Office 365 is huge. Even the europeans are fleeing from the corpse of the IBM/Lotus stack like rats from a sinking ship. Obviously, I work in a Microsoft shop, but none of our customers (some serious financials, insurance corps, notable Fortune 500s) use Google Docs, and anyone big enough to need to run their own mail infrastructure is bailing on Domino for Exchange, or even going into the cloud with Office 365.

That's where the money is. You have to chase a metric shit-ton of $10 a month consumers to equal a million $ a year business contract.