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Re:Musk Says Tesla Cars Will Go 620 Miles per Charge in 2 Ye... by randyrand on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @08:14PM (#10300836)
Interesting stats, and gives a good estimate but it's off by at least an order of magnitude.

1. Autonomous google crashes have been entirely small rear end fender benders. It might be 10x or more safer when accounting for this. You must look at the speeds and types of crashes and account for this in the safety calculation.

2. For safety it's less relevant but for insurance purposes Google has yet to (technically/legally) cause a crash so already it's cheaper for your wallet than a human driver. Progress =)

Re:Musk Says Tesla Cars Will Go 620 Miles per Charge in 2 Ye... by Schwolop on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @09:30PM (#10301150)
As far as I was aware, in none of the 12 accidents Google's autonomous vehicles have been involved in has the autonomous system been in control. They've all been manually operated at the time of collision.

Do you have any other information?

Re:Musk Says Tesla Cars Will Go 620 Miles per Charge in 2 Ye... by pinaceae on Tuesday September 29, 2015 @11:26PM (#10301540)
how are they off? straight out of a car and driver report, google it.

but i guess even this will get downvoted, rather than PROVEN wrong. why even bother debating anything on HN anymore?

Re:Musk Says Tesla Cars Will Go 620 Miles per Charge in 2 Ye... by randyrand on Wednesday September 30, 2015 @03:45AM (#10302386)
Oh I meant its off in that its not an apples to apples safety comparison. Not all crashes are created equal. As of yet atonomous cars have only had specific types of (safer) crashes.

This should be included in the safety comparison as looking at raw crash number is not enough.