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Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by dsr_ on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @06:53AM (#10219893)
This strikes me as odd: is it cultural?

In my experience, people choose to live with friends. If they can't do that, they ask their friends for recommendations. And if they can't do that, they try very hard to live alone, in a closet if necessary, until they can make some friends.

The ways somebody can be a good or bad apartment-mate go much further than anything that I imagine can be discovered by a third party making a few phone calls according to a script. Can Assuredly knock out the most egregiously unpleasant people? Probably.

But it couldn't tell you that while I paid my rent on time and made no loud noises, I would be essentially absent from the apartment I shared one year because I all-but-moved-in with my girlfriend. And I didn't renew the lease because I did move in with her the next year. Was I a bad apartment-mate? That depends on what you wanted from me. I'm certain that I wasn't what was wanted in that case.

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by coldtea on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @08:50AM (#10220312)
>In my experience, people choose to live with friends. If they can't do that, they ask their friends for recommendations. And if they can't do that, they try very hard to live alone, in a closet if necessary, until they can make some friends.

Not sure were you're getting that. People live with unknown (before) roomates etc all the time.

I know it for a fact all over Europe, especially for younger people and Europe, but from the media, interviews, biographies and such I know it happens in the US too, to share the rent, etc.

Heck, weren't even a couple episodes of Friends were they were trying to find a new roomate?

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by Assuredly on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @06:19PM (#10223510)
We agree. Sharing an apartment with roommates is very common in major cities and university areas and that is where roommate problems are most prevalent.

Landlords commonly perform reference checks but individual owners or students looking to fill a room in their current apartment typically don’t have the resources to. Don’t they deserve to know more about their potential roommates before they’re sharing a living room with them?

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by fit2rule on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @08:57AM (#10220347)
I think its a particularly American affliction: to know ones roommates in advance. Perhaps its an artifact from the formative years, where the shock of living with a stranger is learned for the first time, and subsequent entrance into society is predicated with a desire to not have "a roommate experience which sucked".

In Europe, the roommate experience just sucks - from the get-go - because nobody wants a roommate, really. Americans, unwilling to fess up to this fact, seem to have created machinations designed to facilitate this ease.

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by masukomi on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @09:13AM (#10220410)
I'm In Boston and most folks I know who live with roommates found them through posts online. People who knew their roommates before living with them are definitely the exception, not the norm.
Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by icebraining on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @07:30AM (#10220003)
Plenty of people here in Lisbon - particularly university students, but not only - seek to share apartments because they can't afford anything else; if you make minimum wage, the rent of a reasonable house in the city will easily eat 3/5 of your salary.

We rent rooms in a couple of 3-bedroom houses and, as far as I know, our renters aren't friend, though they're usually friendly, they don't really socialize. I think you'd be a great apartment-mate for most of them.

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by saiya-jin on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @08:23AM (#10220180)
maybe you misused the words, but are you talking about renting whole HOUSE in largest city & capital of a western europe country? Places like that I've been, normal people (not on minimal wage, rather average salaries) cannot afford renting a proper house in the city even if they give out full single salary. Edge if the city yes, but anything usable in the city - nope.
Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by coldtea on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @08:54AM (#10220331)
Depends which Western European country you mean. In lots of countries you can rent a "whole house" (whole appartment I mean) quite easily in the city if you're employeed and not on minimum wage.

In Berlin, for example, rents have been notoriously low (something like €500 would get you an appartment: http://berlin.en.craigslist.de/search/apa ), but also in many other cities.

Also in some cities the "city center" or parts of it has low rent because of many immigrants or things like that, and more wealthy people live for other parts/suburbs.

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by nilkn on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @09:53AM (#10220594)
I believe the poster above is simply confused about the usage of the word "house". At least in the US, my experience has been that "house" is usually synonymous with "detached single family home." Pretty typical American example:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Small_Si...

The next step down is a townhouse:

http://media.point2.com/p2a/htmltext/a2c4/c0e3/62d9/4e6d5930...

These are all but nonexistent outside of cities in the US, though.

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by Kurtz79 on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @10:33AM (#10220839)
Not all capitals western europe countries are the same.

In Madrid I'm paying less rent for a studio in the center than what I was paying for a room in a shared flat in London Zone 3.

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by icebraining on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @08:55AM (#10220334)
Yeah, here it's still possible to find 1-bedroom apartments inside the city for ~400€/m (our average salary is ~900€/m, by the way). Rarely in the centre, but still inside the city proper. If you're willing to commute 20km or more, you can get something decent for <300€/m.

Of course, this is just the rent, not utilities & etc.

EDIT: Yes, by "house" I mean "apartment".

Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by Xylakant on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @08:55AM (#10220342)
A "house" in many (older) european cities is often just a small slice of the buildings on a road - more or less the size of a flat, just a vertical slice instead of horizontal. So renting a full house is not exactly uncommon and does not necessarily indicate a large and spacious accomodation.
Re:Assuredly – Live with People You Trust by navait on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @10:23AM (#10220787)
So...if you're a person from Wichita Falls moving to NYC knowing basically zero people, what exactly do you do?

When I was in university, I got some awful roomates in my dorm - and now that I can pick my roomates, I'd love to be able to check if these people have caused problems in the past.