Re:Facebook vigilantes catching thieves and punishing them
by jayess on Monday September 14, 2015 @12:49PM
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You fail to comprehend that I was attacking those who moralize about how bad it is for people to take justice into their own hands without having the slightest clue as to how it is to live in a lawless place. Of course I don't oppose morality.
Re:Facebook vigilantes catching thieves and punishing them
by pdeuchler on Monday September 14, 2015 @01:47PM
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Ahhhh yes, the old "you don't know how I grew up" argument but with a global twist.
Fortunately we are all products of our various environments, so quit telling people to stop moralizing if you don't have "the slightest clue as to how it is to live" in a place where the demarcation between right and wrong is more clear.
(see how twisted that logic can get?)
The article talks about Peru, so for the moment, let's scope to that. According to the article, Peru's crimes tend not to be violent, yet the vigilantes can be. Some of the cases described appear to show a lack of restraint - consistent with mob mentality. Also, if the mob is wrong? Nobody cares.
Now let's extend this to places that are actually violent. Organised crime run the show. They could easily pay/manipulate these groups to do their dirty work. Anyone who threatens the organisation will have themself and their relatives killed, so the hardened criminals remain protected. Lawlessness still reigns supreme. Now, you may argue that it's difficult to track the orchestrator (which isn't hard). But, if it were, they make a statement by killing people randomly who may have contributed. Organised crime will not tolerate these vigilantes. Violence begets more violence.
What's also missing in your argument is peaceful protest. You assume violence is the only option. Think of Gandhi.
I'm not sure if your comment attacking moralistic people is a dig at political correctness. I support any constructive criticism of political correctness (and there are many valid criticisms), but morality? I'm assuming you've lost something in translation. The world you talk of and are willing to tolerate sounds like the antithesis of my world.