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Re:I'm Begging for Work by mmaunder on Thursday September 10, 2015 @02:19AM (#10196363)
Time to get your game face on. I'm a CEO, we're hiring but not in your skill area. Having interviewed a lot of candidates lately and looked at many more, I wanted to give you my 2c on getting into extremely hirable shape fast:

Update your LinkedIn profile as someone has mentioned already. Sweeten it up, get a great looking but professional profile pic up there, get kudos from friends, etc.

Do the online profile cleanse. Make sure everything is very professional looking. Remove any controversial political views or disparaging remarks about previous employers. Looks like this blog post is anonymous. Keep it that way and make sure that email address isn't associated with anything. Employers will google your email address. They'll even drag your profile pic into google image search, so the cleanse includes anywhere that appears.

Get code into GitHub asap and make your profile there sound like you're a team player, super positive, super keen, all that good stuff.

Stop blogging about how tough your life is and don't ever mention it in conversation. Whether you like it or not (personally I don't), that idiotic quote in American Beauty from the motivational tapes is true: "In order to be successful, one must project an image of success at all times.". Yup, that came from the real-estate King himself. Seriously douchey and seriously true.

What employers care about is that you're going to be a great addition to the team, make the rest of the team happier and more productive and be super productive yourself. That's pretty much it besides not being a liability or a risk. Hence the profile cleanse, positivity, demonstration of ability by getting your code into GitHub and so on.

Then go forth and market the hell out of yourself with tons of positive vibe. What I'm telling you here is pretty much to do very much the opposite of what you're doing. Absolutely don't beg. You may get charity but I don't think you're going to be happy with it considering your salary expectations and family situation. You're going to want to land a job earning $75K upwards with excellent benefits in a stable and growing business. That means they need to think that you're awesome, so make yourself awesome and go and kill it.

Best of luck!!

~Mark.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by vruiz on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:18AM (#10196530)
> get a great looking but professional profile pic up there, get kudos from friends

Really? as a CEO those are signals for you? the profile picture is debatable but the endorsements are just a joke and everyone knows it, people just exchange them like they do with twitter follows. If anything, too many of them would be a negative signal for me.

Completely agree with the rest of your comment though.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by Bonogongo on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:27AM (#10196566)
Hiring is a filtering game. With 100 candidates, first thing you do is filter out 80, I wish more candidates would understand this.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by ericdykstra on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:52AM (#10196646)
Using something like "professional-looking LinkedIn picture" as a filter is just throwing out candidates for the sake of getting the number lower. Any company that would be this lazy as to potentially throw away their best candidates in the first round of filtering on criteria that has such little actual signalling is not one that I would want to work for anyway.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by coldtea on Thursday September 10, 2015 @01:19PM (#10199308)
>Using something like "professional-looking LinkedIn picture" as a filter is just throwing out candidates for the sake of getting the number lower.

Who said hiring is fair?

>Any company that would be this lazy as to potentially throw away their best candidates in the first round of filtering on criteria that has such little actual signalling is not one that I would want to work for anyway.

For most companies (not talking Facebook and Google level stuff) it doesn't really matter -- and they could care less if you would work for them or if they get top talent or not. Any decent-ish programmer can do the work they require, so they are OK with being lazy in hiring.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by wisty on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:31AM (#10197004)
People looking for jobs are usually far more motivated than managers looking to hire (or worse, people who aren't going to work with directly with the employee).

Even the CEO, who has skin in the game, won't be entirely dependent on making the best possible hire (hopefully).

Most job seekers are terrible at job seeking. What does that say about how good managers are at hiring?

(Also, managers has to look at hundreds of different candidates.)

Re:I'm Begging for Work by tomhagen on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:21AM (#10196762)
I doubt people get filtered out solely on their profile picture. Yet when you have two similar resumes, things like this might (and probably will) decide who'll be filtered out.

Pro-tip: no one wants to see a Nikon in your profile picture and no one cares about your photography hobby on your resume. I'm talking to you, half of the tech community on Linkedin!

Re:I'm Begging for Work by Jach on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:59AM (#10196889)
People are filtered all the time for BS reasons, e.g. there's a fairly well-known "I only hire lucky people" filter where a random half of the application pile is tossed out without a glance.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by DanBC on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:01AM (#10196897)
That "I only hire lucky people" is clearly parody. Noone actually does that in real life.

I agree that many of the filters that people use are bullshit.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by Jach on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:28AM (#10196991)
Fair enough. Though I still can't help but think there have been people out there who read the fable and then said, "That's a good idea, I'm going to try it."

(You've most likely also read https://web.archive.org/web/20120501193533/http://raganwald.... too, a point in which is that other BS filters act just like the toss-half one in that they aren't really useful when your qualified applicant proportion is small.)

Re:I'm Begging for Work by coldtea on Thursday September 10, 2015 @01:22PM (#10199334)
>Noone actually does that in real life

You'd be surprised. Might not be so explicit, but randomness (ie luck) plays a huge role in filtering process.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by mcv on Thursday September 10, 2015 @10:20AM (#10198166)
You might be throwing out the lucky ones if your company is a bad place to work.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by dandare on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:27PM (#10200670)
Come on, it's a fact that ugly people get longer prison sentences, it sucks but that is how our brains are wired. Deal with it.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by selestify on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:47AM (#10196628)
Just out of curiosity, where do you work as a hiring manager that you get so many candidates to filter out? At the company I work at it's been somewhat difficult to find suitable candidates to even interview with us -- the few that do come in for interviews are usually so-so (and we do pay quite above average). Also, anecdotally, during my own job search I was the one filtering out companies to apply to (nearly all the ones I applied to accepted me in the end), so at least that's consistent with the developer shortage my company is currently facing.

I am very curious how the balance of power can be tipped so drastically in the other direction in some places.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by cxseven on Thursday September 10, 2015 @10:54AM (#10198396)
Why not filter out those 80 with a dead-simple (fizzbuzz level) online quiz?

In my experience it was enormously difficult to find qualified candidates, especially if HR or recruiters were allowed to pre-filter candidates using relatively superficial judgments. A fizzbuzz test easily eliminated more than 80%.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by vruiz on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:32AM (#10196584)
I'm very aware, my point is being an endorsement collector will put you in the group filtered out, at least if I'm doing the filtering, but perhaps I'm the minority.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by proveanegative on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:56AM (#10196665)
Off the cuff, I agree with you, but I also wonder if it isn't an approach only used by a minority of people involved in hiring, primarily those with a technical background. This is the sort if matter on which I would love to see an empirical study based on real data from the industry, not stimulated hiring experiments, unlikely as it may be to happen.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by Bonogongo on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:41AM (#10196606)
I agree on that one.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by Eleopteryx on Friday September 11, 2015 @06:36PM (#10206517)
I imagine that e.g. the average Rails job listing gets maybe 1/10th that many candidates.

Certainly one wants an edge, what I find confounding is that none of the advice dealt with proving actual ability as much as being shinier and flashier than the next candidate. I guess I was naive in thinking that kind of superficiality had diminished relevance in this industry.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by zeckalpha on Thursday September 10, 2015 @10:44PM (#10201725)
You can filter out the candidates who DO use LinkedIn.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by s73v3r on Thursday September 10, 2015 @01:11PM (#10199262)
I'm sorry, but if you're using shit like "LinkedIn photo" or "LinkedIn endorsements" for filtering, you deserve the crappy workforce you get.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by happywolf on Thursday September 10, 2015 @07:30AM (#10197377)
As a hiring manager myself, I would say those kudos/recommendations are nice-to-have and I am not paying too much attention to the contents. However these testimonials tell me a candidate has basic social skill, talks to colleagues, and able to get along with others (yes, people won't write testimonials to someone they don't get along).
Re:I'm Begging for Work by mcv on Thursday September 10, 2015 @10:17AM (#10198141)
Endorsements don't mean much, but they do show that people know you and think you don't suck, which is still better than nothing, especially for someone with very limited work experience.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by jlarocco on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:43AM (#10196611)
I guess beggers can't be choosers, but you're describing an employer I would never work for.

> Remove any controversial political views or disparaging remarks about previous employers.

If a person keeps their stupid political views to themselves while at work, it's really not any of their employers business. As far as disparaging remarks go, if it's an awesome company to work for, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

If your employees have to be as fake as possible to get hired, maybe you're doing it wrong.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by petercooper on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:51AM (#10196865)
It's not so much "fake" as presenting one's best face in a professional context. Most of us present different faces in different contexts every day.

I often pick my nose, scratch my ass, tell rude jokes, love wearing sweatpants, and don't have a problem with embarrassing-to-most sexual conversations. Do I engage in these things on a first date as I might on a day to day basis with friends? No.. I dress up a bit, smell a bit better than usual, steer clear of politics and sexual jokes. So it goes when seeking a job.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by jlarocco on Thursday September 10, 2015 @01:15PM (#10199281)
> It's not so much "fake" as presenting one's best face in a professional context.

That's what I take issue with. I think for most people, the majority of their internet use isn't in a professional context, and I see no reason it should be used to judge them professionally. My Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, and even GitHub accounts aren't professional things. I'm an adult, I know the difference between work and non-work, and I only work for companies that also know the difference.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by Lawtonfogle on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:31PM (#10200360)
And one day when every activity done outside of your home is recorded, will you agree that you shouldn't do any of that except in the private of your own home? Or would you say that if you run to the local market at 8PM in your jammies, your professional reputation shouldn't take a hit. Would you say that if you were seen flirting with a date (or SO or spouse if dating/married) while at some restaurant, it shouldn't be used against your professional reputation?
Re:I'm Begging for Work by cryoshon on Thursday September 10, 2015 @09:43AM (#10197937)
Ah, but the problem is that everyone in the business world has already agreed what "your" "best face" should look like.

If you present a pretty good face that isn't the expected one, it won't work-- frequently they want the drone.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by calibraxis on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:41AM (#10196833)
Workplaces are intensely political. Corporations are huge donors to political campaigns.

Of course, politics goes beyond the pageant of professional politicians we call elections. (For example, saying "corporations are illegitimate entities" is political. Or "corporations are structured as dictatorships, and that's where you spend much of your lives". What would we expect a corporate gatekeeper to do, upon seeing that?)

Re:I'm Begging for Work by webXL on Thursday September 10, 2015 @12:22PM (#10198957)
My haunch is that most donations by corporations are strategic and don't have an ideological bent.

Yes, there are plenty of hiring managers who let their ideology get in the way of making decisions that benefit the business. The companies that have a lot of those won't be around very long. But if you make any political comments online, just pretend that you're on TV and everyone can hear you. In other words, don't be an ass.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by mycroft-holmes on Thursday September 10, 2015 @09:01AM (#10197743)
Yeah, the fact that political views are an issue for this CEO is a sign that I'd never want to work with this CEO.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by mcv on Thursday September 10, 2015 @10:24AM (#10198194)
Yeah, but you're not unemployed with 4 kids.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by marincounty on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:47AM (#10196630)
You're a CEO, and would hire the Real-Estate King, if he could code?

I have a few websites. They don't produce much income, but some guys offer their services for hire; thinking I might hire them if they say the right things? I tell them up front, I can't afford to hire them, but some are very persistent.

They send me their resumes, even after telling them I'm a struggling website owner, and I don't make a living doing this work. From my perspective, it's so easy to spot the Real Estate Kings? This one guy wanted me to join his companies, exclusive website forum. He was going to put in a good word, so the the other Winners would let me in. Well, I went to the forum, and it was just this guy and me. Every article was written by him. Every comment on the site was written by this guy. I couldn't belive the verbage this guy was throwing around. His favorite phrase was "Are you interested in monetizing? Followed by "You need to scale!" It's was almost like he memorized that movie about Facebook? And yes, he had a professional, cheesy profile pic. with a tie, and head cocked. Call me old school, but I wouldn't put his picture into Google Image search, but that same cheesy picture came up at least a couple dozen times just in just Images. He used the same portrait pic. in every website--ever created? My point is I had this guy figured out pretty quick. I think, if he didn't try so hard to sound professional, I would have loved to kick around a few ideas I have? And yes, if we meshed, I have a small bank roll I would be willing to risk.

I thought hiring in tech was about abilities? I don't care what a person looks like? It's so easy to spot "The Real Estate Kings" of Coders; I couldn't imagine trying to hide who you are? Yea, scrub the web, if you can, of anything controversial, but be honest? Honesty used to go along way? Do you really need that Starbucks fueled, go, go, save world with my app, never sleep, positive vib in order to get noticed for employment?

Maybe it's just me, but I'll take the well rounded individual, with some finished projects over a Cheerleader?

Re:I'm Begging for Work by fapjacks on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:00AM (#10196681)
Your liberal use of the question mark has created a very unique narrative style in my head.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by bazzargh on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:20AM (#10196757)
http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/

"As a general rule, the information obtained and requested through the pre-employment process should be limited to those essential for determining if a person is qualified for the job;...employers should not ask for a photograph of an applicant. If needed for identification purposes, a photograph may be obtained after an offer of employment is made and accepted."

It surprised me when you attached any importance to "a great looking but professional profile pic", since it's such an obvious way for discrimination to work, so I checked if that was allowed. I don't recall being asked for a photo pre-employment in 30 years.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by petercooper on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:47AM (#10196851)
They're not allowed to actively discriminate on it, but people naturally make choices based on gut feeling and having a good photo can really help.

They're not allowed to discriminate on whether your resume contains the right collection of trendy buzzwords either, but that's what HR systems sit and do every day.

You play the game that exists, not the one that's written in statute.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by throwaway5752 on Thursday September 10, 2015 @06:34AM (#10197205)
"They're not allowed to discriminate on whether your resume contains the right collection of trendy buzzwords"

Aren't they?

Re:I'm Begging for Work by DanBC on Thursday September 10, 2015 @06:40AM (#10197223)
I'm not surprised that candidates put their photos on resumes or their information sites.

I am surprised that a CEO publicly declares photos to be useful. A photo is clearly bullshit - there's no useful information in a photo (unless it's "here I am accepting $PRESTIGOUS_AWARD last year") - and it raise risk of discrimination claims.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by coldtea on Thursday September 10, 2015 @01:26PM (#10199353)
>there's no useful information in a photo

There's lots of useful information in a photo.

A talented HR/CEO can size up a lot of things from it, even from the way the candidate is dressed in the photo.

"Hmm, too old, too quirky looking, doesn't look a good fit for our culture, fucking hipster I hate them, too slopilly dressed don't like working with such guys" etc.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by rev_bird on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:11PM (#10199935)
I'd wager half of the observations of this "talented HR/CEO" are illegal.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by coldtea on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:33PM (#10200377)
I'd wager it depends on the country, plus it doesn't matter, they'd do them anyway and there's not much anybody can do about it.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by dandare on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:33PM (#10200695)
As a fact ugly people get longer prison sentences. It sucks but that is how our brains are wired.
Re:I'm Begging for Work by Eleopteryx on Friday September 11, 2015 @06:15PM (#10206449)
Aren't you describing all of the things that you should be trying to see through, to see past? Anyone can fake being an uncontroversial, positive, "team player" in the interview process. Anyone can take a nice headshot. Anyone can censor themselves on social media and not have an opinion. But surely you're trying to gauge their qualities past that superficial level? You didn't even really describe any technical requisites besides having an appealing GitHub profile.

It sounds like I've been wasting my time trying to be a better software developer or hone my skills; the big bucks are waiting for me as soon as I choose to project an artificial persona. My entire life thus far is starting to make a lot of sense.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by simonswords82 on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:53AM (#10196657)
This is great advice for anybody seeking a job. When I'm going to hire somebody I'll stalk them online until I'm comfortable I've unearthed as much detail as I can before pulling them in for an interview.

Another quote is "act as if" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-robbins/the-law-of-attrac...

Like Mark said, your attitude is at least half as important as your ability to code.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by nekopa on Thursday September 10, 2015 @04:24AM (#10196766)
For anyone interested in improving their profile pic, this is a good article:

http://www.diyphotography.net/take-professional-linkedin-pro...

Read all the way through, as he points out that it is not the equipment that matters, its the setup with the reflectors, which can easily be improvised...

Re:I'm Begging for Work by wyclif on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:38AM (#10197028)
This is good advice, don't get me wrong (I read the article), but you don't absolutely have to have a pro photo. What you do need is a good, clear headshot. Advice like yours is necessary because I've seen a lot of really bad, unprofessional LI photos:

1/ Don't use your Facebook profile photo

2/ Don't use anything blurry: photo should be well lit and clear

3/ Don't use a photo that isn't a headshot—make sure your face is clearly visible and smiling

4/ Don't use anything where you're engaging in unprofessional behaviour

Re:I'm Begging for Work by Jach on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:06AM (#10196914)
Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/137/

Not that your advice is bad -- it's about the same as any college advisor would give -- but to those with whom such fakery leaves a foul taste, just remember the tech industry still has plenty of opportunities where that's unnecessary.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by sdoering on Thursday September 10, 2015 @05:55AM (#10197083)
Thanks. And glad to read this. Got a job with an very holidayish image on my professional resume (me climbing in Greece). Got my job having a personal site with quite left wing blogposts.

Got a job in a great environment with great colleagues - without having to constantly denying myself.

For me these things work as a filter for companies, where I would not want to work. But for the OP I would first say - get any dev job at all and after that look for a great job to then jump ship.

Re:I'm Begging for Work by thomasahle on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:57AM (#10196672)
Is it worth it to go to a photographer? Or does that signal narcissism?
Re:I'm Begging for Work by rev_bird on Thursday September 10, 2015 @03:13PM (#10199954)
Personally, I'm freaked out seeing a LinkedIn profile that is complete, but in a way that signals they might have actually paid someone to make it look that way. I've seen great profiles that really give me a good feel for what someone is up to, but others, like with a cheesy school-photo, just seem like marketing material.