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Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by dragonwriter on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @02:12PM (#10193063)
> but it fires shots across the bow of also increasingly popular Chromebooks which are around this price point.

The price point is more like (a little under) the at-release Surface Pro than popular Chromebooks (its a little cheaper than the Chromebook Pixel, but that's not really the big seller -- the popular models are at the low end.)

Both by form factor and price, this seems more to be competing more with the big "pro" tablets that the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (slightly cheaper) and the Surface Pro (3 was slightly more expensive at release, 4 probably will be too, 3 is slightly less expensive right now) than Chromebooks.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by Someone1234 on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @02:57PM (#10193449)
While the Pro 3 was slightly more expensive, if you include the keyboard cover and pen, I'd argue this is much more expensive (included pen & $120 for the cover/keyboard, Vs. $99 + $170).

And the Pro 3's pen/drawing experience has received pretty good reviews after some early software jitters.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by abritinthebay on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:21PM (#10193657)
To be fair you'd have to include the Pro 3's keyboard cover in that too - $120.

Also the Surface stylus isn't in the same league. So you'd have to compare to something like the N-Trig stylus which is an extra $50.

Cheaper? Yes, though I'd say the Apple ones are better quality (especially looking at the keyboard cover).

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by Someone1234 on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:29PM (#10193739)
> Also the Surface stylus isn't in the same league. So you'd have to compare to something like the N-Trig stylus which is an extra $50.

The Surface Pro 3's pen is an N-Trig... Yeah, so not $50 more, included right in the box. And it has reviewed excellently by artists.

> Yes, though I'd say the Apple ones are better quality (especially looking at the keyboard cover).

You have absolutely no basis for claiming that the Apple pen and cover are superior. Literally nobody has reviewed them, you haven't used them, nobody you know has used them, and you didn't even know they existed two hours ago.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by abritinthebay on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:38PM (#10193848)
I've used the Surface Pro's cover - it's crap. Based on the dome switches (which I have used the previous generation of) the Apple one is already better.

So yes, I have a basis for claiming that - one based on the hardware used and direct experience with the competition.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by Someone1234 on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:55PM (#10194061)
> I've used the Surface Pro's cover - it's crap. Based on the dome switches

Nope, scissor-switch. It is mechanical.

They used to sell one called the Touch Cover which is likely what you're describing, they don't anymore (discontinued, years ago).

> the Apple one is already better.

Because, why? You haven't used the Surface Pro 3 (as evidence by your own posts), you haven't used this (as evidence by the fact that nobody outside of Apple has), and you keep making basic mistakes about how both work.

This is like the N-Trig remark all over again.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by abritinthebay on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @06:36PM (#10195115)
> Nope, scissor-switch. It is mechanical.

I know, I was saying that the Apple one was better based on my experience with their Dome Switches vs my experience with the Surface keyboard.

You fail at reading comprehension. Just because you can't read, don't blame me.