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Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by rimantas on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @01:39PM (#10192824)
Care to explain, why do you have multitasking in quotes? You think iOS is some version of DOS?
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by oblio on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @01:48PM (#10192883)
Can I open a game on iOS and let it play? Say I want to idle in Clicker Heroes while I browse the net.

Can it do that? Without jail-breaking it?

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by Nicholas_C on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @06:42PM (#10195149)
Or play YouTube without having the app open.
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by bcoates on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @01:47PM (#10192864)
It's literally not a general purpose computer, you can't compile and execute code on it. DOS at least came with an assembler-debugger and a linker.
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by rimantas on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @01:54PM (#10192934)
How many of iPad users even know what "compile" means? Why not forget that world does not spin around developers once in a while?
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by ZanyProgrammer on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:11PM (#10193550)
Because its called the iPad Pro?
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by X-Istence on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:43PM (#10193921)
And the only Pro users are going to be developers/programmers, right?

How about my doctor while he visits patients, or my dentist to show me my X-rays easily, or the automative tech that plugs in an OBDII module and instantly sees information on the large screen...

Those people are professionals, and that is what this is geared towards, not just developers.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by photosinensis on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @04:33PM (#10194377)
It'd be nice if they remembered us. We seem to be the only creative types not being targeted here. And yes, I'd actually consider it for a few purposes..

No, don't ship the SDK by default. Make it so that it only runs locally-compiled binaries. That's okay. But I'd like the ability to use this for real work that I do. Everybody else gets to work on it, after all.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by tlholaday on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @05:18PM (#10194689)
> the ability to use this for [programming]

Install Parallels Access on your iPad Pro and your desktop compile engine (iMac? Mac Pro? Mac Mini? MacBook?).

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by ZanyProgrammer on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @07:00PM (#10195215)
Actually I don't think the iPad Pro (or any iOS device) is geared towards programmers.
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by tdicola on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @01:55PM (#10192941)
You can use XCode on any Mac and compile and upload apps to your iPad just fine. No need for a $99 developer account anymore too.

There are plenty of programming apps in the app store too if you just want like a Python, Javascript, etc. shell to mess around in too.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by adamnemecek on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @04:08PM (#10194172)
but you can't compile code on the device itself which is kind of a big deal
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by rsynnott on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:24PM (#10193683)
What version of DOS was this? I seem to remember MASM being a rather expensive piece of software which didn't ship with DOS.
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by mappu on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @05:04PM (#10194589)
It came with DEBUG for an assembler. I can't back up the linker statement.
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by gress on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @01:54PM (#10192925)
This is flatly false. There are numerous programming environments available on iOS, and it has the JavaScript environment with the most advanced available JIT built in.
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by striking on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @02:57PM (#10193448)
Wrong. https://www.bignerdranch.com/blog/javascriptcore-example/ JavaScriptCore is what Apple uses for built in JS evaluation, and V8 can't be implemented due to lack of execution of code from user-writable memory. JSC most definitely does not have the "most advanced available JIT."
Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by comex on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:23PM (#10193676)
Depends on the benchmark. It's certainly competitive. For example:

http://arewefastyet.com/#machine=29

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by striking on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:30PM (#10193759)
Right, it's competitive... But being competitive and "most advanced", to me, are two different things. Not knocking Safari's performance, the battery life you get from it kicks butt. Still, different.

(Also, wow. Comex replied to me. Very cool.)

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by comex on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:45PM (#10193942)
I mean, there's definitely a good argument that V8 is most advanced, but, for example, JSC is the only one that has the LLVM 'fourth tier', and it shows on asm.js benchmarks, where it mostly beats V8 (loses to Firefox, but that has asm.js-specific code while the others don't):

http://arewefastyet.com/#machine=29&view=breakdown&suite=asm...

So I think the question of "most advanced" is basically subjective.

Don't get me wrong! I would strongly prefer if iOS allowed any JIT to be used. I just think calling the one that can be used "most advanced" is not wrong per se.

Re:Apple Unveils the iPad Pro by striking on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:49PM (#10193997)
Well said. Thanks for the insight.