Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality

Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by Spivak on Sunday August 30, 2015 @03:53PM (#10144305)

"systemd-machined" is systemd in name only. It's not like the init system has built in su functionality, this is just the project's container/vm manager getting some new functionality. This isn't a full replacement for su and it doesn't even come close to the functionality of sudo.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by cbd1984 on Sunday August 30, 2015 @10:24PM (#10145149)

This comment is content-free.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by simoncion on Monday August 31, 2015 @02:02PM (#10148148)

Nah. Systemd started out as "just an init system". It has grown and grown since those days, ages ago.

One day, systemd will eat udev:

Kay Sievers on Tue, 3 Apr 2012:

"After udev is merged into the systemd tree you can still build it for usage outside of systemd systems, and we will support these builds officially. In fact, we will be supporting this for a long time since it is a necessity to make initrds (which lack systemd) work properly." [0]

(Emphasis mine.)

[0] https://lwn.net/Articles/490413/

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by digi_owl on Monday August 31, 2015 @03:41PM (#10148646)

Gentoo started eudev in part because extracting udev from the larger systemd project became too cumbersome. Each time there was a update the process changed enough to break attempts at automation, apparently.

the Linux From Scratch team adopted eudev for their non-systemd edition ("classic") for a similar reason.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by simoncion on Monday August 31, 2015 @05:10PM (#10149102)

Yeah, I know. Due to inertia, I'm still using sys-fs/udev and will probably continue to do so until Sievers makes good on his implied threat.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by digi_owl on Monday August 31, 2015 @05:20PM (#10149161)

i seem to recall that some interfaces had been moved from udev to libsystemd, or something, recently.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by simoncion on Monday August 31, 2015 @05:49PM (#10149293)

Then, perhaps the time for migration to eudev is nigh! :D

I haven't followed the udev saga in a very long time. I do know that I have =sys-fs/udev-224-r2 installed and I don't have systemd installed. I also don't have any executable files on my system named "systemd".

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by cbd1984 on Friday September 11, 2015 @05:49PM (#10206360)

Your comment was still content-free.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by cbd1984 on Saturday September 12, 2015 @07:16PM (#10209725)

Your comment was a simple personal attack, and added nothing to the discussion. People can disagree with you without being stupid, you know, and not admitting that makes the anti-systemd side weak.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by dang on Sunday September 13, 2015 @04:23PM (#10212689)

> please do us all a favour and shut up.

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Re:Systemd Absorbs “su” Command Functionality by HiYaBarbie on Monday September 14, 2015 @07:46AM (#10214618)

For whatever it's worth, he was clearly not posting substantively. Perhaps a reminder would be in order?

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