Is there some version of the article that names the student that 4 or 5 people have read? Or are people just seeing the name of the Licensing Officer at CERN and confusing it with the student's name?

Oh they are not telling us her name. They must be telling the company if they are to extract the payment from her though.

Not really, the university may have paid it and then get the money from the student.

Well then the student would do well to not pay and to force the University to take them to court over the speculative invoice. Good luck getting undergraduate students to the University that will give itself the reputation as the enforcement arm of a copyright claim. (NB that in the EU no matter what the University blusters they cannot prevent graduation over unpaid charges.)

I am not a lawyer.

RTFA. Ph.D "student". There is no 'graduation' as such. The university can refuse to accept the submission.

Yes there is a graduation as such for Ph.D. students -- it's not such a big deal seeing as it happens post viva/defence and many students don't turn up in person however it is still required to get the piece of paper that says Doctor of Philosophy on it.

Submission tends to be covered by laws as well.

> The university can refuse to accept the submission.

They could try. I've seen HUGE fusses being thrown over way more reasonable refusals than this.

They haven't named the student concerned. RTFA.

They must be telling the company her name if the charge is to be passed on. Otherwise she can simply not pay. I have read the article please do not swear at me even in acronym form.

TFA refers to the student several times as 'him'. Again, RTFA.

In general people use "him" as a replacement for "him/her". Other people use the pronoun "her" to combat the implicit assumption that people must be male. Since they are not identifying the student in this blog post one cannot ascertain the sex of the student from the fact that blog post uses the word "him". My use of the word "her" had nothing to do with any fucking.

> In general people use "him" as a replacement for "him/her".

That's one of the ways people use "him". Other times, they use "him" to mean that the individual in question is male.

These days, "her" to combat the implicit assumption that people must be male is common enough, it's almost safer to assume that "him" means someone who is specifically male.

> These days, "her" to combat the implicit assumption that people must be male is common enough, it's almost safer to assume that "him" means someone who is specifically male.

I think this is not true yet. Anecdotally I personally only noticed this first a few months ago and no one I've discussed it with in real life has yet known what I'm talking about.

Look, you can use all the twists of logic that you like, the facts of the matter are these; the protagonist is male and they were in the wrong.

How do you know the student is male? You said that CERN and the University did not name the student?

Because unlike you I read the fucking article. In it, the author directly refers to the student as 'him' and 'he'; therefore it is safe to say, despite your politically ridiculous musings, that the protagonist is male.

No it is not safe to do so -- as I have already explained in detail. And yes for the uptenth I read the article.

You are wrong. End of. Learn when to back down.

Not really. I think that you are wrong you think that I am wrong. We will never resolve this. Goodbye.

You have to have the final word?

The story refers to the article, the student, in the masculine form. In English, we do not have explicit masculine/feminine forms of adjectives, therefore the article, in this case a student, is a male as the story's author referred to the article as 'him', 'he' and 'his'. I simply do not understand what you are finding so hard about this, other than petty political correctness. QED.

Furthermore, it is totally irrelevant to the story itself!

You. Are. Wrong.

Looks like we need a new word to identify male if "him" no longer works.

Well... in JupiterMoon's defense, the word is overloaded (in the C++ sense). We use "him" for "male", and also (historically) for "person of unspecified/unknown gender".

Now, we're more using "her" for "person of unspecified/unknown gender", but the problem remains: We've got three states (male, female, and unknown/unspecified), and only two words (him and her). No matter what, there's going to be this kind of problem, until we come up with a third word. (People have suggested "they" or "them", but I don't like it because of singular/plural issues.)

But "them", "their" and "they" are perfectly serviceable and have been used for a long time.

Like "they", "them" and "their"? English is a wonderfully flexible language, it's such a shame that ridiculous and faddish political correctness is so utterly blind to it.

If CERN are not identifying the student publicly then we do not know that they are male.

Well we do, since TFA article refers to the student as male multiple times. You take is your take. It is politically motivated.

No we know that they used the word him and his. This does not as we have already established identify the student's sex.

Don't be ridiculous.