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Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by antsar on Thursday August 06, 2015 @03:39PM (#10018851)
According to EFF's Panopticlick[0], the biggest thing making my browser unique is the list of plugins that I am running. Short of disabling JavaScript, I don't know of a way to prevent that. Can this hypothetically be solved with Privacy Badger and are there plans to do so?

[0] https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by Foxboron on Thursday August 06, 2015 @05:10PM (#10019470)
If you use firefox you can go into about:config and set `plugins.enumerable_names` to nothing. It might make flash unavailable on some sites, so you might wan't to leave that inn.
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by cpeterso on Friday August 07, 2015 @03:05AM (#10021244)
Unfortunately, the plugins.enumerable_names feature was disabled and later removed (by me, sorry). [1] There was no way Firefox would be able to ship that feature because it broke too many websites for the minor reduction in fingerprinting. Even with your plugins "hidden", websites could still use Flash to enumerate all your system fonts.

The navigator.plugins array is now sorted alphabetically [2] to avoid an issue documented in Jonathan Mayer's thesis [3]. Gecko and WebKit sorted the navigator.plugins array by the plugins' "last modified" time. Users with the same plugins installed can still have unique fingerprints because it is unlikely that they installed their plugins in the same order.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169945

[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793978

[3] https://www.stanford.edu/~jmayer/papers/thesis09.pdf

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by deltaprotocol on Friday August 07, 2015 @03:59AM (#10021360)
My answer is based exclusively in what you wrote, and not in my technical knowledge of Firefox's internals.

- There is no such thing as "minor" reduction in fingerprinting nowadays. This is a war, every little bit is important.

- I much prefer to have a thousand sites broken and a little bit more of privacy (or the feeling I'm doing all I can).

- A lot of people (me included) do not use Flash anyway.

Thank you for your work!

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by sintaxi on Friday August 07, 2015 @06:05AM (#10021678)
This is a very good point and I agree. How is this different from saying "we didn't fix the flaw because people exploit it"?
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by antsar on Friday August 07, 2015 @08:49AM (#10022123)
Thank you for your hard work on Firefox, Chris. Mozilla has made many good decisions with it, keeping it clearly superior to Chrome/IE in my view.

That said, I find it difficult to agree with the decision to remove features like this. So what if it can break websites? Isn't that what the "This might void your warranty!" warning is for? It seems far better to give users the option of viewing the web the way they want to view it, rather than protecting them from some broken websites at the expense of their privacy.

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by lawl on Thursday August 06, 2015 @08:48PM (#10020387)
Or use the opportunity to kick flash off your system. I'm surfing without flash for probably 2 to 3 years now. These days it's really not a problem. Most sites work with html5 and those that don't have alernatives that do.
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by swartzcr on Thursday August 06, 2015 @03:53PM (#10018953)
Yes there are plans to do that for the next release of PB :)
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by stephengillie on Thursday August 06, 2015 @05:05PM (#10019443)
This is yet another benefit to whitelisting JavaScript. Faster page load, more lightweight pages, less advertising and spying and crapware, less information going out.

And if you like a site you can enable it.

Go ahead, call me crazy like most people do.

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by jakeogh on Thursday August 06, 2015 @07:06PM (#10020023)
The web is so much better without it. It's downright annoying to use someone else's JS enabled browser.

Rough config for surf: https://gist.github.com/jakeogh/b23aac080c5c74310c88

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by antsar on Friday August 07, 2015 @08:43AM (#10022088)
I agree that this is better. Unfortunately, whitelisting is tedious so I often resort to enabling all JS when I quickly need to use a site or five that require it. Many don't have the patience to keep doing this, so disabling plugin enumeration might be a nice middle ground for them.

Security/privacy doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by stephengillie on Friday August 07, 2015 @10:29AM (#10022656)
We should be able to make "Security Groups" where we can apply less-restrictive settings (JS on, cookies) to trusted sites.

The Internet Explorer security model has 4 levels (Internet, Local Intranet, Trusted Sites, Restricted Sites) and you can choose a preset security settings package, or build your own, for each level.

Maybe Chrome/FF/Safari need something more similar to that, where we can specify different groups or levels, and then assign those to websites we visit.

The biggest problem with the IE method is that the UI is more tedious to add a site to a zone in IE11, than to add a site to the JS whitelist on Mobile Chrome.

Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by Tanath on Thursday August 13, 2015 @03:08AM (#10052668)
uMatrix from the creator of uBlock makes JS management easy (along with other things).
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by thiagowfx on Thursday August 06, 2015 @08:16PM (#10020289)
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by RexRollman on Thursday August 06, 2015 @08:58PM (#10020417)
NoScript is a great extension. Even if you never used it to block anything, it is a real eye-opener on just how much stuff is being loaded when you visit a website.
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by JadeNB on Thursday August 06, 2015 @09:54PM (#10020559)
The functionality is great, but see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoScript#Controversies. As https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9999411 points out, browser extensions have an enormous amount of power, and the developer doesn't demonstrate that he deserves the trust that that power requires.
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by greenyoda on Friday August 07, 2015 @01:37AM (#10021051)
Since NoScript is open source, I assume that people are keeping a closer eye on the code after these incidents. The author has to be aware that if he tries something like this again, people could fork the code and move on without him (like what Adblock Edge did to Adblock Plus).
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by idlewords on Friday August 07, 2015 @12:07AM (#10020897)
You're crazy!
Re:Privacy Badger – Block spying ads and invisible trackers by brave on Friday August 07, 2015 @06:02PM (#10025280)
Have a look at Random Agent Spoofer https://github.com/dillbyrne/random-agent-spoofer (beyond spoofing the User Agent, you can fine tune a series of privacy settings).

By the way, Panopticlick is outdated (is it even maintained anymore?). You should use https://browserleaks.com