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Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:09PM (#50443922)
Source?
Re:The Death Knell of Digital Search on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @12:05PM (#50443130)
https://kagi.com

have been a paying user for years, very happy with the service.

Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:01AM (#50442228)
yep this is what I do, though I haven't collaborated in a bit. it really is the best workflow at this point and it can be as granular as you need/want it to be.
Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:46AM (#50442009)
just upgraded (pre-ordered) from live 12 suite to live 13 suite for $183 USD. that's ~$15/mo for 12 months if we spread the cost out.

looking back at my order history, I upgraded from Live 10 Suite (purchased 2018) to Live 11 Suite for $245.60 in 2021 and again from 11 Suite to 12 Suite in 2024 for $245.60.

Everyone has a different financial situation, but for me this is entirely fair pricing for professional grade software that does not have a subscription that I use on an almost daily basis. I am happy to continue supporting Ableton, they respect me as a user and are consistent in their quality and output. (I don't use FL Studio, this is not a dig at that company/platform, just a happy Ableton user).

Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:23AM (#50441682)
> I'm assuming there's no real central registry ala pypi/maven/npm?

that's exactly right, unfortunately. it's a bit of the wild-west the it comes to plugins/VSTs in terms of distribution.

and I agree, this feels like the sort of thing that should be pretty solvable, but I think there's a lot of hidden complexity in this problem space. Solving the "version control" aspect of this feels like it should be rather straightforward for a single user, involving multiple users with different Ableton Live versions, different plugins/VSTs (and different versions within those) is where things would undoubtedly get messy.

I do think there is a niche market for this sort of thing, however.

Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:24AM (#50440829)
This is a pain point for me as well, but I'm not sure what solving this would truly look like. At the moment whenever I'm collaborating with anyone else, one of us will have the "primary" project file containing the entire mix/session, and the collaborator will be sent all stems individually, and they'll send their stems back for ingest in to the main project. It's pretty clunky, but it prevents the awkward "I don't have that plugin/VST/etc" issues that passing project files has.

I dream of a git-like workflow for Ableton, ideally with some sort of clever solve for the inevitable missing device issue (maybe freezing could solve this with some tweaks?).

I'm also curious to hear from others on how they solve this, especially when collaborating remotely.

Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:17AM (#50440723)
Same. To be honest I tried using FL Studio (back when it was "Fruity Loops") and it never fully clicked with me. Live immediately made sense, it's been home ever since.
Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:10AM (#50440644)
same here, it's kind of crazy that Ableton hasn't had a good option for shaping transients out of the box until now!
Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:53AM (#50440386)
+1 to the other recommendations to get them Standard, Intro is pretty limited for an "upgrade" (coming from a daily user of Suite).
Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:51AM (#50440351)
Part of this answer depends your specific budget/financial situation. I've been an Ableton user since 2014. I bought Live 9 Lite at the time (probably came included with a midi device I bought), because I was still in undergrad and wasn't sure if I was going to stick with it. Looking at my order history, I later bought Live 9 Standard and used that until 2018 when I upgraded to Live 10 suite.

My advice, if you have the budget, get Standard and upgrade to Suite later (at a discount). Suite is _nice_ but it's really mostly bells and whistles that you don't "need" to get from Ableton. Suite has a ton of included sound packs and instruments that are certainly useful but may not be useful to you.

As for the Akai MPK Mini, that's going to be entirely subject IMO. I've bought several midi controllers over the years, and I've settled on a few key pieces that I'm happy with. The Arturia KeyStep 37 is the perfect keyboard for my desktop. It has enough range in a compact form factor and doesn't have any features I don't need (I'm not affiliated with Arturia).

If you don't already have a midi keyboard, I would suggest grabbing an affordable one!

Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:41AM (#50440196)
Agreed, it's really intuitive (or it was for me). I feel like it has just the right learning curve, it just makes sense.
Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:37AM (#50440148)
I'm personally glad to see they didn't add anything AI. Suno already exists for that market, IMO.
Re:Ask HN: What are you working on? (November 2026) on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:20AM (#50439914)
This is the second visualizer I made using the app I've been working on, if anyone sees this and is curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlT5rwoTXjI
Re:Ableton Live 13 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:19AM (#50439904)
As a daily user of Ableton, I'm pretty excited about this. Especially the Capture Automation/Step Sequencer/Multiband rack types.

I'm not a fan boy of any companies or tools, but Live has continued to impress me with each release.

Re:Ask HN: What are you working on? (November 2026) on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:16PM (#50428458)
I've been working on a custom music visualizer application the past few weeks.

In my free time I produce electronic/ambient music and I've been unhappy with the existing visualizer tools and wanted something that gave me more control over the final results to try and better compliment my work/achieve my creative vision better. so far it's been a lot of fun to work on and it feels incredibly gratifying seeing it come together when paired with my songs.

This was my first proof of concept that I rendered with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crqPvKmMWUg

it's a bit basic, but still stylized and I think it suits that sort of drone-y ambient sound well.

I have a more traditional "visualizer" for a different song in the works, showcasing a lot more complexity in the rendering engine. Hoping to put that one out today.

Re:Ask HN: Any Interesting Niche Hobbies? on Thursday April 09, 2026 @12:09PM (#47705472)
That is a mighty compliment that this reminds you of Jónsi, thank you for that! He has been an inspiration of mine for a long time, amongst a long list of other very talented artists.

I had no idea about his Obsidian project, I will certainly be taking a look at that, thanks for the recommendation!

Re:Ask HN: Any Interesting Niche Hobbies? on Thursday April 09, 2026 @11:33AM (#47705078)
Thank you so much for that! I've actually been debating starting a self hosted blog (or maybe a Substack...) to capture and document my process and provide more context around the music I'm producing, maybe I'll spend some time working on that this weekend!
Re:Ask HN: Any Interesting Niche Hobbies? on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @10:48AM (#47691010)
> Bonus if you are friends who are also into it and you can jam together :)

How does one find these people? Asking for a friend! :D

I've also gone down the synthesizer rabbit hole: prophet-6, full modular setup (rip bank account), subsequent 37. It's great fun!

Re:Ask HN: Any Interesting Niche Hobbies? on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @10:44AM (#47690949)
Despite AI starting to crowd this space, I've been spending all of my free time learning music production (doing it the old fashion way without AI). It's a great mix of technical and creative problem solving. Mostly focusing on dark ambient/cinematic composition, playing around hardware synths (Prophet 6, Subsequent 37, modular / eurorack, Digitone II).

If anyone is curious, I put out a single recently (remaster from last year): https://soundcloud.com/vectordust/ion-dunes-1

My main personal goal right now is to release a full length album this year.

> there were still plenty of albums being produced and I think it's the same today.

agreed with this, I would almost go so far as to say there are more full length albums being created than ever before.