scared333

Just came here to say that we have fired over the course of last year or so every single russian, belarussian and Hungarian that worked for us (about 30). Everyone. Some of them I think were sincerely against the war and atrocities russians are committing in Ukraine.

Yet it was a moral thing to do. The russian community needs to understand that they too carry some moral responsibility for the actions of their government. And that world can do away without them. That if they want to continue living in the west, they need both in words and in deeds completely and fully condemn the actions of their compatriots.

This is underrated comment. And by looking at the knee-jerk reactions from accounts with 0-10 karma, might just be right on the money.

For me, having moved from the US to eastern Europe has been eye opening in this regard. Based on somewhat shallow sampling of parents of our kids classmates in $$$ IB school, everyone but one seem to be vocal about the fact that everything in the west is from the 'ass'. I admit that it has crossed my mind more than once that if you really feel so strongly this way, or are upset that people don't want to speak russian with you, then why are you still here and not on your way back already?

Indoctrination is real, just see below. This is not to say this is not a problem elsewhere, but we are now talking about russian:

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/05/kids-with-guns

Statistics seem to back up the fact that russians (and e.g. some other apac countries) are not the best netizens: https://time.com/3087768/the-worlds-5-cybercrime-hotspots/

Let's just say it the way it is: russia is attacking Ukraine, a free nation. Russia is committing atrocities and war crimes against Ukranian people. When russia stops fighting and leaves Ukraine, the war ends. That is all there is to it.

I haven't been completely unaware of those and other things. But vast majority of my history classes and bringing up focused on nazi germany being the sole responsible for everything WW2 and how we beat them. And then soviets being the commies and the enemy of the free world. And then the wall came down and everything was swell again.

So yes, I have been ignorant. Of which I am sorry. I may be late in the game, but let's put it out a loud: where are the russians living outside of russia that are protesting against russias war on Ukraine?

I guess russian leadership failed to consider this when they started their illegal imperial war to annex Ukraine. People of russia are almost irreversibly becoming the new 'nazis' of whose attrocities the kids will learn at school and of whom they will learn to despise for the rest of of their lives (while the earlier ones will be just another chapter in the history books that is read with the same enthusiasm that most study geopolitics behind WW1 currently).

This is not to suggest that the attrocities (at this point anyway) would be comparable, but that history is moving ahead.

Sorry about political angle, but due to my circumstances, I am very angry of what is happening, and I think these things cannot be repeated too many times.