mariavillosa

>It’s pretty easy to opt out of corporate dystopia >People love to brag about how they quit social media.

Social media is the tip of the dystopic iceberg

> That's not the purpose of the 1A. If you read 1A it's fairly basic. >Congress...

Right, at the time of writing, that would have been perceived as the gravest threat to free expression. But I don't think that's still the case.

> Unless someone can prove people are being removed from platforms for reasons above companies are well within their rights to refuse service.

Agreed completely, I'm not making a legal claim. My claim attempts to stand on the moral philosophy behind these laws.

Oh I was writing the same comment, you beat me to it, and more elegantly!

>Objective truth does not exist

That's an objective truth claim right there!

>This has nothing to do with 1A. Businesses have the right to refuse service if you're being too loud in their establishment. Sorry, not sorry.

If the purpose of 1a is to foster a society where speech is democratic, then it does, because corporations have largely replaced governments as the primary arbiters of information. So philosophically, the idea behind it is very relevant.

The kind of power that governments abused, leading to 1a, is in some ways analogous to corporate power today. Whether that analogy is valid is the debate, right?

I'm not from the US, but I wonder - just like how liberalism radically reimagined governance and the role of the commons in their relationship to the state, I wonder how a revolution this century could radically reimagine the digital commons.

What will seem like obvious, basic digital rights, 100 years from now, that are completely unimaginable to my digitally medieval brain, like a preliberal medieval peasant?

This is my perception as well. Not knocking either of those countries, just curious if they were thought to be bastions of enlightenment values.

But almost all countries are more liberal than those two. My question isn't if the US and UK are the least enlightened countries in the world, but rather, if people see them as particularly enlightened among countries. Ie compared to any other random liberal country like Mexico or Czech Republic.

I understand OP's point, just curious whether the examples used reflect a common perception. To me when thinking of stereotypically enlightened societies, I think of Iceland or Canada or something. The US I think of more as a business+war society, and UK seems somewhere in the middle, but much lower than the rest of Europe.

This is based on nothing objective, just wondering what other people's perceptions of these places are

>Is the government of the USA, UK, or other "enlightened" societies throughout history

That sentence piques my interest, do people see the USA and UK that way? I think of Switzerland and Canada that way, for example, but my knowledge is all based on stereotypes. Maybe it depends where you're from, as the stereotypes must differ among regions.

just something that amused me :)

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