jtallant

Splitting everything up like that also makes it a lot of fun when you want to redesign your site ;-)

I agree with the points you've made here but one of the reasons WordPress got so popular is because PHP is just on the server. But if you're looking for a Ruby/Rails CMS check out http://refinerycms.com/. Their UI could use some work too but the developer has a lot of power with it being a Rails app. I wish more people would get behind it.

>No. If you are all that and you can PROVE it, colleges are the cheapest way to get educated in that amount of time. You do have to take time to consideration. You dont want to spend a year doing Analysis if you could take the hardcore route in college.

I still disagree that colleges are the cheapest way to get educated in that amount of time. Due to the structure of the curriculum it's impossible to avoid taking in unnecessary amounts of useless information. So I guess agree to disagree in that aspect.

>No. If you are all that and you can PROVE it, colleges are the cheapest way to get educated in that amount of time. You do have to take time to consideration. You dont want to spend a year doing Analysis if you could take the hardcore route in college.

If I wasn't ignorant high school I might agree with you here. I didn't even have the sense to think about proving myself then and now I just don't see the sense in wasting the time to prove to an educational organization that I am worthy when I can just go about making myself worthy on my own and start getting paid.

>You should have looked for schools that had better programs. You should have tried to get some research experience so that you could work on hard problems in those schools. You should have developed a credential and ability that would make the school of your dream fund you without a blink of an eye.

You are absolutely right I should have and wish I did. But again, now that I didn't do that stuff in high school I still feel at this point the best thing to do is cut my losses, stop the inefficiency and the accumulation of debt and start putting those specific skills for which I am most likely to get paid for.

Indiana University, and I am not trashing the school. I respect the school, the professors there, etc. No doubt there are very bright faculty and students there, my argument is more along the lines of education in general is out dated and overpriced. I don't like that you have to get buried in debt to gain credibility and I just don't think it's necessary. I think if you are a hard worker and you use your mind you can find other ways to do it that are cheaper and possibly more effective than the college route. When I say out dated I do realize I am not on the west coast or any kind of top tech school and that does make a big difference and part of the reason why I am dropping out is so I can get out there where people are a lot more passionate about technology.

I don't think you misunderstood, I wasn't being specific enough. There is aid but what I mean is I am not comfortable with that kind of debt and in my opinion if someone is driven enough they can learn as much and more than a university graduate without paying for the education. They are just giving up the credibility which in my situation, in my opinion, isn't necessary either. I think there are ways to build credibility other than a college degree and if you put the work in and you really did build the skills and you are building the right relationships, hustling, and making the right connections you will be successful. Of course I haven't pulled all of this off and become massively successful or anything, this is in theory. Part of what I was saying in the blog post was that the debt students are getting in can be crippling and many of them don't understand the full weight of that, and I do not agree that one has to go through the government to receive a certificate of credibility. When information is free, credibility can be free too and the government doesn't have to have a near monopoly on "paper" credibility. An alternate system could be created there is nothing magic about the ones handed down through the government and yes there are private institutions but I'm talking more along the lines of a free system which in my opinion is achievable with current technology.

In my opinion whether or not it's the easy way out really depends. I took a good hard look at the value I was getting and the money I was spending and I just couldn't justify it. There certainly are many students who drop out just to get away and give up. To me it's not about giving up and I'm not attempting to talk myself up just speaking honestly when I say that when I look around, I just don't see the students in my area working hard at all. I see a lot of slackers that have a sense of entitlement that don't do any self education. They rely entirely on what they are taught in school and that's just not enough. I'm not generalizing, there are many amazing students out there taking full advantage of their university and working their but off in their spare time and I respect that.

I appreciate the insights and I think you bring up some really good points. I think you're right about the environment and being around the professors who are obviously seasoned in their field and that's not something you're going to get on your own unless you're lucky enough to have close friends with that kind of knowledge. Personally I might reconsider if I had the kind of funding to get into a truly great tech school. Of course if you have Stanford like resources, you're going to think twice before going it alone.