joencott

> (i.e. the momentum you allude to[1])

The momentum stalled when the community was plagued recently by toxic behaviour of one of the members who started the fork. He had to step down from the "well-being" team[1], bullied a moderation team member into stepping down[2] and forced him to disclose information from a private chat[3].

Now he is trying to "reboot" the community to erase his previous bad behaviour [4]

Forgejo members are also unhappy about conflicts of interest of this individual [5]

The Forgejo community is stronger than this one individual, so it will succeed.

[1]: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/meta/commit/d822fc3b90f79372023...

[2]: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/meta/issues/176#issuecomment-82...

[3]: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/meta/issues/176#issuecomment-82...

[4]: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/meta/issues/187

[5]: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/meta/pulls/180#issuecomment-843...

Not enough people are talking about this, as soon as the company took over they started to remove functionality. Shame on them.

It is sad to see that the forgejo team accept and promote the built-in CI server. When the PR was first made they said they shouldn't trust the code, and will stick with woodpecker.

Forgejo did relicense, there was a democratic vote and the it was agreed to finally relicense to a license that respects user's freedoms

Forgejo is AGPL, there was just a vote and the community came out strongly to say they disagree with commercial usage of Forgejo! I am so happy they did that!

> developers working in any software to make a god damn living and not die starving in a gutter

There are many examples of opensource developers receiving full time payment from the community. Krita, Godot, and more all exist long term.

You can earn a living, and respect user freedoms.

> Why should anyone care/use CI/CD software because Codeberg uses it?

Woodpecker is community-run, and Codeberg is a non-profit running the biggest Gitea instance.

> You speak negatively of Gitea, highlighting a fork because they were working on a CI

The for-profit Gitea company released the integrated CI/CD that should not be trusted because it was a code dump and worked on in secret. You can read more about the hostile takeover of Gitea at the open letter https://gitea-open-letter.coding.social

> Woodpecker which itself is a fork of Drone CI

Drone CI is not open source, and does not respect user freedoms.

I am a fan of this fork, but not participating. SourceHut is relevant because the link is a reaction to what ddevault did for changing the SourceHut terms of service https://sourcehut.org/blog/2022-10-31-tos-update-cryptocurre...

What does it sound like in your language?

It was done by a democratic vote https://codeberg.org/forgejo/meta/issues/1#issuecomment-6885...

A platform needs to be moderated, and I support Codeberg. Ddevault and SourceHut already banned all cryptocurrency-related projects.

Forgejo is owned by an independent community instead of a for-profit company, and promises to be free/libre forever!

It is easy to use, and Codeberg uses it for their public CI/CD

This should not be trusted, the for-profit company worked on in secret on this for months with multiple people, and released it today in a code dump with no input from the community. Now they have no incentive to support alternative CI/CD like woodpecker

You should try it, Codeberg uses it for their public CI/CD

If only everyone follows ddevault's advice and starts each project with AGPL, that way no company can steal the code.

Forgejo is a community-run fork because the project should not be owned by a for-profit company.

The open letter gives all the details you need to know https://gitea-open-letter.coding.social/

It's easy \ˈfor.d͡ʒe.jo\ the Esperanto word for forge

Today the for-profit company released a code dump for the implementation of an integrated CI/CD server. This was worked on for secret for months by multiple people with no say from the community. Gitea should work with Woodpecker for closer integration, not build one by itself. There is no incentive for the company to support alternative CI/CD