joehartshorn
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joehartshorn on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @05:33PM
from the youtube.com dept.
Thank you, I was quite happy with it myself!
Listen, don't feel sad about still missing the point with Judd after 5 days, it's not that embarrassing. I almost feel the need to help you understand it. You can bring a horse to water I suppose...
Maybe you should consider some Superior Learning TM, and stop having fantasies about staff meetings or whatever.
(in all seriousness, it's been fun sparring with you)
I'm happy for you, that you are so secure in your world view. Personally I try to challenge mine as often as possible, and avoid dismissing things before I understand them. I hoped that you might find a quick introduction to a booming movement in design and art interesting, I'm sorry I wasted your time!
Don's rebuttal; "I am often told that the furniture is not comfortable, and in that not functional. The source of the question is in the overstuffed bourgeois Victorian furniture, which, as I said, never ceased. The furniture is comfortable to me. Rather than making a chair to sleep in or a machine to live in, it is better to make a bed. A straight chair is best for eating or writing. The third position is standing." - 'It's Hard To Find A Good Lamp' 1993
http://s3.amazonaws.com/juddfoundation.org/wp-content/upload...
I'd also suggest reading "Being Dumb" by Kenneth Goldsmith, as a reminder that not everything requires a strict practicality to be great.
https://www.theawl.com/2013/07/being-dumb/
Arch Digest is a terrible place to read about anything related to art or design.
Judd was a seminal artist, and has some fantastically sharp essays(0), which are well worth reading. I agree that the chairs are not practical, but conceptually I think they're brilliant. Having such a pure vision (of reducing an object to its most essential form) and executing on it, I think is admirable. I think you're missing the point if you approach Judd from a practical position, and disregard the value of his ideas.
(0) https://juddfoundation.org/artist/writing/ ("It's hard to find a good lamp" and "Some aspects of colour in general..." are good places to start)
Yeah fair, I wanted to see if you were full of shit, but you probably know more than me, and bickering and points scoring over stupid things is how hacker news turns into reddit, sorry.
That's fair, although credentials != proof. Working for Waymo, Lyft, Uber, Nuro etc is a credential. The engineers you mentioned have verified that what you wrote fits with the method/ approach they think will work. There is a possibility that they're/ you're wrong.
(This isn't intended as a personal attack)
I don't disagree with what you're saying, but my point was that I don't know if power consumption is even relevant, considering what Comma are doing from a phone on a windshield. I don't know (I'm not an expert) but I don't think putting TPUs in trucks is a requirement for solving driving.
Do you actually have data to back that up? I read your article, which (no undue disrespect intended) looked to be full of unsubstantiated qualitative data/graphs and opinion. Are you an "expert"? Or are you trying to get medium clicks on your article/ purchases of your book?
>"Trucks are also a better platform for autonomy, with their large size providing more power for computers"
I'm no expert but "power for computers" doesnt strike me as a bottleneck, Geohot/Comma seem to be doing fine, this just sounds like marketing bs
I read Whiplash by Joi Ito and Jeff Howe (MITP), in which Joi talked about "demo or die", and credited Nicholas Negroponte as the source of that phrase, but apparently not:
NN - "Somebody else actually coined the term “demo or die” and I am not sure who. It might’ve been Muriel Cooper, because I arrived one day at her lab and saw it written on a wall clock where all the numbers had been taken out and were replaced with the letters, “demo or die.” I thought it was pretty good." (
https://www.wired.com/beyond-the-beyond/2019/05/nicholas-neg...)