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Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by joehartshorn on Friday March 12, 2021 @04:39AM (#26433835)
Arch Digest is a terrible place to read about anything related to art or design.

Judd was a seminal artist, and has some fantastically sharp essays(0), which are well worth reading. I agree that the chairs are not practical, but conceptually I think they're brilliant. Having such a pure vision (of reducing an object to its most essential form) and executing on it, I think is admirable. I think you're missing the point if you approach Judd from a practical position, and disregard the value of his ideas.

(0) https://juddfoundation.org/artist/writing/ ("It's hard to find a good lamp" and "Some aspects of colour in general..." are good places to start)

Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by blunte on Friday March 12, 2021 @07:43AM (#26435180)
But is it reasonable to call that its most essential form when that form is so anatomically wrong?

In other words, if a chair so badly fits most humans, should it be called a chair? A sphere can be used as a chair, and it is even simpler or more pure design-wise, but we don’t call it a chair.

Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by joehartshorn on Saturday March 13, 2021 @09:36PM (#26452279)
Don's rebuttal; "I am often told that the furniture is not comfortable, and in that not functional. The source of the question is in the overstuffed bourgeois Victorian furniture, which, as I said, never ceased. The furniture is comfortable to me. Rather than making a chair to sleep in or a machine to live in, it is better to make a bed. A straight chair is best for eating or writing. The third position is standing." - 'It's Hard To Find A Good Lamp' 1993

http://s3.amazonaws.com/juddfoundation.org/wp-content/upload...

I'd also suggest reading "Being Dumb" by Kenneth Goldsmith, as a reminder that not everything requires a strict practicality to be great.

https://www.theawl.com/2013/07/being-dumb/

Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by alanbernstein on Friday March 12, 2021 @07:53AM (#26435280)
A yoga ball is actually a better chair than this thing.
Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by JoeAltmaier on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:42AM (#26435706)
Pushing art into home furnishings, to the point the home is not liveable, is missing the point of art to a massive degree.
Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by joehartshorn on Saturday March 13, 2021 @09:57PM (#26452398)
>'to the point the home is not liveable'

Putting Judd furniture in a home hardly makes it unliveable, it's narrow minded of you to suggest it.

>'Pushing art into home furnishings, ..., is missing the point of art to a massive degree.'

Here are a few galleries (and a couple of articles) that would beg to differ:

https://www.maniera.be/

http://www.etageprojects.com/

http://a1043.com/?lang=en

https://carpentersworkshopgallery.com/

https://salon94.com/design

https://www.galeriekreo.com/en/

https://nilufar.com/en/

https://seedslondon.com/

https://flash---art.com/2020/03/is-collectible-design-a-new-...

https://www.archpaper.com/2020/03/an-interior-evolution-of-t...

Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by JoeAltmaier on Sunday March 14, 2021 @06:09PM (#26459851)
No, narrow-hipped perhaps. Just look at those awful, awful chairs. Nothing whatsoever that admits a human being will sit in them. No, its hunky-dory goofy thinking that leads to 'it looks like a chair, so it must be a chair'. Only an artist could think that.

Sure furniture could be pretty. But it has to, at root, function for humans.

Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by joehartshorn on Sunday March 14, 2021 @06:35PM (#26460136)
I'm happy for you, that you are so secure in your world view. Personally I try to challenge mine as often as possible, and avoid dismissing things before I understand them. I hoped that you might find a quick introduction to a booming movement in design and art interesting, I'm sorry I wasted your time!
Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @04:55PM (#26496675)
Nicely patronizing!

With all that superior learning about what's true furniture and what's not, I look forward to seeing you attending a staff meeting in a plywood box chair. I'm sure the joy of its beauty will still be with you as you go to the chiropractor for weekly treatments.

Re:Donald Judd's Iconic Chair 84 Design (2020) by joehartshorn on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @08:54PM (#26498650)
Thank you, I was quite happy with it myself!

Listen, don't feel sad about still missing the point with Judd after 5 days, it's not that embarrassing. I almost feel the need to help you understand it. You can bring a horse to water I suppose...

Maybe you should consider some Superior Learning TM, and stop having fantasies about staff meetings or whatever.

(in all seriousness, it's been fun sparring with you)