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Exactly right - they end up forgetting to toggle the switches. And this is one of the big problems with most timekeeping systems today. Easy as it might be to click these buttons, it is easily forgotten and messed up.
Trend toward fixed-fee is interesting here. Something to keep an eye on.
Based on our conversations, yeah - many want to increase the accuracy of their timesheets. For some, this is the main driver of adoption. For many, it's the time savings from cutting out manual timekeeping.

Even for firms/attorneys that are not super detail-oriented, the software would offer a log of their work as a basis for their bills.

At this point, we've actually been generating narratives with a lot of detail (and the attorneys will frequently edit our narratives to pare them down). So long as we are smart about data collection, we have what we need to be sufficiently descriptive and accurate, which has been good to see.
Yeah, there is definitely this trend toward fixed-fee work. We're interested to see how it evolves over the next 10 years (and how PointOne might be able to help with work that is not billed by the hour).
Hahaha well said. It's a sped up workflow, so this would be very uncommon in the wild. But great observation ;)
This is very interesting. We have thought about a few of these ideas and will continue to mull over the others. At a high level, I could imagine provenance being less important but time savings through automation to be highly important.

Love all the detail here.

This is well done
Lmao it buckets it into a non-billable "personal" category. Doomscrollers can continue doomscrolling...
Hahaha lawyers review the entries before they submit. This is like a time tracking "copilot." Also, "infested waters with pants full of chum" got a laugh on my end.
Tenths is interesting! And you're totally right. "On the go" time tracking can be quite tough. On mobile, we're currently focused on legal workflows, but other applications are compelling.
Thank you! We've really enjoyed working on this problem.
We sure hope so. Thank you!
Really cool that you've seen this space up close! It's definitely a hard problem. With recent improvements to these large models, we're able to get solid accuracy (which, as you alluded to, is very important). Often, users will minimally revise the narrative descriptions before submitting.
Awesome. That's definitely something we can explore. Could you shoot an email to [email protected]? Interested to hear exactly what you're thinking wrt an integration.
The problem is that some folks in this situation will under-bill. And it's somewhat common for an associate to have a billable-hour target that they must hit (or else they lose their bonus, for example).

Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers

Hi HN!We’re Adrian, Katon, and Jeremy from PointOne (https://pointone.ai). We’re building an app that automatically figures out what lawyers are doing and generates timesheets for them. Here’s a quick demo: https://youtu.be/yrL3e1hgaNc, and here’s an even quicker one: https://youtu.be/giIaAxZp2M0.If you’ve ever hired a lawyer, you know most of them bill by the hour—or more specifically, by the...

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