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Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @08:08PM (#13275012)
That sounds fascistic! Do you mentor them? Or are pair programming and code reviews part of your company culture?
I can only state my perception about required qualifications I saw in job postings; big companies: university, small companies: skill A, B, C.
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:51PM (#13274948)
It is my thought as well on those bootcamps, you lack some important CS skills. But there are different coding jobs out there: I think you could easily create some nice, small websites or WordPress themes afterwards, your own app, small freelance work, things only you maintain, but doing "serious" coding in a team on a bigger project after a few weeks? I don't think so... You'll need a lot of mentorship, maybe an internship... May those nano degrees are a better choice if you add some CS skills on top off it.
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:38PM (#13274899)
I honour every trade job! And as an office worker (secretary/ developer) I really miss to create something physical or with my hands. I started to create my own feminine developer t-shirts (NERDpraunig.com), something I can touch and wear.
I don't care which profession someone chooses and whether it is more brain or more physical work.
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:31PM (#13274872)
I do believe that the very basics of programming can be taught to everyone, like you said. I think everyone should be able to learn the basics in school (or elsewhere). We are surrounded by software, coding is like a new literacy.
But I also think not everyone will like coding. It is kind of abstract but also creative. People have different interests and silks: writing, coding, drawing, taking pictures, sports,... and that's ok!
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:22PM (#13274842)
Oh wow, a lot of parallels. Pair programming and code reviews taught me a lot. When pair programming you also learn a couple of new short cuts, new command line tricks, new ways of debugging,... Without the experienced coders our code base would have been a mess. And congratulations to your career switch!
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:15PM (#13274808)
OMG unbelievable. Like there will be a market for only 5 computers...
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:10PM (#13274788)
As far as I can remember I had to finish my studies in a certain time frame, I think plus max 1-2 semesters (günstiger Studienerfolg). Not finishing on time would have ended the scholarship. And in terms of "soziale Förderungswürdigkeit" I think a was only allowed to earn a certain amount of money on top of that scholarship. If I had earned too much I think I would have had to pay it back (or parts of out) for the current year. But long time ago, I had an appointment with the "Studienberatung" in Klagenfurt who answered all my questions, fantastic service!
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @06:58PM (#13274739)
It is in Austria, Carinthia: http://www.fh-kaernten.at/en/startpage/
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @06:43PM (#13274661)
And guess who always had to fix my parent's computer in the end... Finally my interest in computers was useful xD ;-) they are very proud of my career now and are a bit of envious when I can travel the world for some SAP events :D
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @06:18PM (#13274535)
Hello other Delphi person !! Such a pity that we had the same sad Delphi fate...
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @06:14PM (#13274513)
I heard about 10.000 lines of code in one function at a job interview. I did not accept that job offer and I am quite happy that I don't have to maintain this... This is a serious lack of craftsmanship! A little bit of Clean Code for every programmer please... But I am drifting a bit off topic now.
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @06:06PM (#13274456)
I totally get your point! It is also hard for me to read articles by Non-German people. In our SAP community network (SCN) we all share what we know in English, most of them are not English native speakers. I can't tell the difference what is right or wrong. I will try to get native speaker help for Medium and learn a thing or two along the way ;-) Thanks!
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @05:58PM (#13274407)
Thanks for the hint!
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @05:57PM (#13274398)
Thank you for your encouragement acemarke :)
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @05:55PM (#13274383)
Thank you very much for your kind words nick! A bit of bragging, I am also quite proud to have a black belt in karate (Shotokan, 1st Dan). Currently I am doing native development (iOS with Swift) at work and I really love it! As a JavaScript developer Swift feels very familiar (and you don't suffer from the current JavaScript fatigue ;-)
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @05:43PM (#13274312)
Well I just studied the local newspaper and looked for development jobs, but there were only C/C++ or Java jobs. When looking for jobs across Austria it was almost the same: no Delphi/Pascal in sight.
I had no app idea back then, that would have been great... Now I know better, I currently code in Swift and have a few app ideas :-)
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @05:09PM (#13274109)
Thank you jakobegger to add those additional information. May I should also mention that the study fee was only about EUR 360 per semester, so no student debt.
Re:From Secretary to Software Developer: The Hard Way
on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @05:04PM (#13274075)
English is not my first language, sorry for the grammar mistakes, I tried my best :-) I asked a native speaker friend to help me to fix it ASAP. I will pay more attention to this in the feature! Thx!