bradcypert

I write Clojure, Kotlin, and Scala all on a pretty regular basis. Truthfully, I do write less Clojure now than at the time I wrote this post, but that's predominantly because my current interest (and salary) are centered around Kotlin + Android.

I still write Clojure quite a far amount, but I don't blog about it as much as I'm not "exploring" the language as much. Sometimes, I'll find or create something cool and share it, but most likely that'll be Kotlin/Android related right now.

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That's correct! I did not want to give up Clojure or Scala for Android however! I tried writing an app in both and it was miserable, so I went back to Java. And then I thought -- well, hang on, I'm definitely not going to write this in Java if there's a less-verbose alternative. So I forced myself to learn Kotlin and actually like it quite a bit. In a few ways, it reminds me of when I first worked with Groovy.

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I write Clojure, Kotlin, and Scala all on a pretty regular basis. Truthfully, I do write less Clojure now than at the time I wrote this post, but that's predominantly because my current interest (and salary) are centered around Kotlin + Android.

I still write Clojure quite a far amount, but I don't blog about it as much as I'm not "exploring" the language as much. Sometimes, I'll find or create something cool and share it, but most likely that'll be Kotlin/Android related right now.

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My opinion has not change as I've never looked back ;)

I've found a fun little home in the JVM, but I'll definitely check out data classes in Python! That seems pretty cool :)

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It's really not that bad! Here are some insights into the parens!

1. I've converted Java code over to Clojure and found that it has less parens per file.

2. They're still there, they're just in a different place. `System.out.println("")` vs `(println "")`

3. There are some great tools to help with the Parens. If you're using Intellij, Pareninfer and Rainbow parens are two extremely helpful tools.

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You're definitely right. I had a run in with PolyML in College and I was absolutely terrified of any functional language (nearly failed the class, in fact). Before deciding to switch from Python to Clojure, I had used Clojure briefly a few years before and hated it (was writing mostly Groovy at the time).

After some time to grow, I had started caring about different principles in the languages that I used. I had been ruined by mutable state too many times; I got tired of not knowing how to get the number of wheels on your instance of the car class, I got tired of so many things. Clojure was/is a wonderful reprieve from all of these things, but truth be told, I do still struggle with it from time to time. Or at least, it feels like I do.

The main points being:

1. If you need it, and there's not a Clojure alternative, you don't have to write your own. 2. If you have any proprietary .jars or anything like that, you can leverage those services, models, etc when building an existing Clojure app. This is mainly a transition-type thing, in my experience. "Well, we could try Clojure but then we cant reuse any of our existing models." Not entirely true. However, you probably will want to change those from mutable classes pretty quickly :)

was F# painful pre-dotnet core? Have you tried it since? I ran into issues with F# and Mono a few years back and haven't tried since core came out.

Incanter is a fantastic toolkit. A great suggestion!

I was unaware of this and have been playing with Elm and Haskell in my spare time! Neat to know that there's a Haskell like language on the JVM! Will have to check it out :)

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Personal Opinion: Django is a nightmare to work with. It's too opinionated and a pain in the ass. However, I love Flask. I wouldn't be where I am today had I not found Flask in 2012/2013.

If you're looking for web technologies in Clojure, you'll find quite a few good ones. However, I say web technologies instead of frameworks because generally, the Clojure community prefers to compose libraries to suit their needs and not leverage an opinionated framework. However, if you'd like someone to do that composing for you, the Luminus web template is fantastic.

http://www.luminusweb.net/

I completely agree with you! I didn't call it an MVP until release, I always referred to it as "Version 1", but in reality, they're both the same thing.

In a way, it reminds me of Cartoon Characters who wear the same thing every day, they're instantly recognizable, even if you can just see their shirt/pants.

The branding is the only part really noticeable to anyone other than yourself and once you explain the other two reasons, Im sure they'll understand.