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Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:00AM (#35729157)
AMD has now specified that the issue is SoC voltage in a follow up statement. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-issues-follow-up-state...
Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:59AM (#35729148)
AMD has now specified that the issue is SoC voltage in a follow up statement. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-issues-follow-up-state...
Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:59AM (#35729142)
AMD has now specified that the issue is SoC voltage in a follow up statement. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-issues-follow-up-state...
Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @09:22PM (#35722098)
You aren't acknowledging the fact that four ODMs have come forward and said they plan to limit the SoC voltages -- the very issue cited -- in future firmware revisions. They have communicated this through public statements that you or anyone else can read. They aren't changing these settings for their health, or taking the PR damage for no reason whatsoever. You appear to be a bit uninformed, but I think your affiliation with your company might have clouded your interest in actually studying the issues before you comment. Here are the statements:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/preventing-ryzen-burnout-m...

Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @08:24PM (#35721713)
There are many that you could easily link. Der8auer is one, and he also reports on another in his article. then there are these, and more:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8301821438

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/12tlk7s/comment/jhdbnp...

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2511874-1-1.html

https://twitter.com/hms1193/status/1650879743947079680

And there are more, but I'm not going to spend the time to continue to look them up for you. This is a widespread issue with numerous public statements from motherboard vendors that they are making adjustments to specific voltages to prevent these issues.

Toms says it is Expo and/or manual SoC voltage adjustments, which has been directly proven by vendor statements.

I understand that you may think that you aren't biased here, but the fact is that this impacts your employer in a very material way, and you are obviously intentionally refusing to acknowledge the clear and present evidence, not to mention that admissions of an issue from a multitude of companies. Perhaps you should recuse yourself from this discussion as you have a personal tie that renders you unable to make logical statements.

Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @08:12PM (#35721642)
ASUS pointing out that they are defining new rules for vCore and SoC voltage to address these issues is in fact pointing to that as the issue. They aren't just "throwing that in there" because it is unrelated. If you need it to be even more direct, here is the statement from ASUS that says it is SoC voltage.

https://twitter.com/ASUSTechMKTJJ/status/1650920434404331520

Here is the statement from Biostar that says SoC voltages are being limited:

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/news/news.php?S_ID=559

You've admitted that you work for AMD, which would make a casual observer think that you are being biased in your comments. There is verifiable proof of the correlation with SoC voltage from the ODMs themselves.

Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @05:05PM (#35719990)
So your skepticism here and dismissal of public statements from the motherboard makers admitting fault has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you are an AMD employee?

Do you think that, maybe, being an AMD employee, just maybe, you might be a bit biased here?

Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @04:54PM (#35719862)
Four motherboard makers have come forward and issued press releases about new firmware they are releasing that limits the SoC voltage, thus preventing this issue. What further evidence is needed?
Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @04:49PM (#35719799)
The press releases from the motherboard vendors are 100% proof that these failures are real and a problem. They all cite new firmware that limits SoC voltage, thus showing the analysis in the article is correct.
Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @04:47PM (#35719776)
You need to read the statements from motherboard ODMs that explicitly state they are limiting the SoC voltage.

You also obviously did not read the article. The high SoC voltage fries the thermal sensors that enable overheat protection. That creates a cascading failure that allows the chip to draw too much vCore, then melt itself. Of which there have been numerous pictures and reports.

Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @04:44PM (#35719739)
The four motherboard makers that have issued public press releases about revised firmware that is designed specifically to limit the SoC voltage to prevent failures would disagree with you here. If that isn't a public admission of this being the source of the failure, what is?
Re:AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: Impacts all 7000 processors on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @04:42PM (#35719707)
This is incorrect. Multiple instances (more than 6) have thus far been reported and pictured. All four major motherboard OEMs have now come forward with patches that are designed to limit the voltage. You can see their press releases in the link below.

These companies aren't making public statements about changes to their firmware to prevent failures for no reason.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/preventing-ryzen-burnout-m...