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Re:California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It by Retric on Monday August 03, 2015 @12:17PM (#9997252)
It's odd that you think private companies who own and operate the Grid need public support to expand it. If demand increases they make more money which can pay for upgrades directly or in the case of large shifts pay down loans.

PS: A 2% change per year is actually well within normal variations.

Re:California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It by rogerbinns on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:20PM (#9998499)
California decouples utility profits from demand/quantity supplied, and has done so since about 1980. If they didn't, then as you point out, the utilities would be trying to get people to consume more.

Here is a two page CPUC brochure (PDF) about it: http://www.fishnick.com/pge/Decoupling_Explained.pdf

Re:California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It by Retric on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:59PM (#9998890)
Thanks, that's just odd.
Re:California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It by rhino369 on Monday August 03, 2015 @12:23PM (#9997323)
I'm not 100% sure how California public utilities commission works, but in most states, the company would in fact need government permission to do upgrades. Otherwise they can't charge more money to do it.

Power companies are heavily regulated and so are power rates. Their business model is dictated to them.

Re:California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It by Retric on Monday August 03, 2015 @12:28PM (#9997376)
There is no need to change rates if demand increases, if anything things get cheaper per KWH as electric cars increase night time demand. As to permission, that’s not a cost which would need to be paid for.
Re:California Has a Plan to End the Auto Industry as We Know It by greggyb on Monday August 03, 2015 @06:13PM (#10000270)
The man hours (and there would be many) required to document the need, apply for permission, potentially attend hearings of some sort, argue for, and comply with the conditions of permission most certainly have non-zero cost to the utility company.