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Re:Why Open Offices? by masklinn on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @08:30AM (#9968136)
> Fact: In today's age of agility, rapid development, minimum viable products, continuous deployment, and short iterations it is much more important that you can discuss things with your coworkers and stakeholders quickly and figure out if you are working on the right thing

Fact: that has absolutely no relation to offices. And "offices" doesn't have to mean singles either (they usually don't in my experience).

> Provide the team with good quality headphones

I can't wear headphones. I literally, physically, can't wear headphones for more than 10~15 minutes, it starts hurting like somebody's driving nails through my eardrums. Now what?

> shame people who have non-silent notifications on their devices

And people who have bodily functions, and people who put the volume too high on their headphones, and people who type too hard, and people with tics. Just shame people on a general basis really, that makes for great esprit de corps.

> Do this and all the problems with "focus" that open-office haters complain about GO AWAY.

Yes, everybody must love what you love and you can't be wrong, because "no setup works for everyone" except for the one you want.

Re:Why Open Offices? by Anderkent on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @09:07AM (#9968330)
>I can't wear headphones. I literally, physically, can't wear headphones for more than 10~15 minutes, it starts hurting like somebody's driving nails through my eardrums. Now what?

See a doctor? That's definitely not normal.

Re:Why Open Offices? by masklinn on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @09:24AM (#9968413)
> That's definitely not normal.

You think? Sadly having fucked up middle ears isn't exactly fixable, it's something I can only make do with, so that didn't answer the question: how do you[0] handle employees who can't wear headphones when your[0] solution to noise issues is "just wear headphones"?

[0] this is a generic "you", I know the specific you is not the one who originally made this assertion.

Re:Why Open Offices? by deanCommie on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @11:39AM (#9969333)
Large over-ear headphones exert NO pressure on any part of the ear. They are basically inverted cups that go over and around your ear and insulate.

Are you saying those don't work for you?

Unless you're talking about the volume of music making your ears hurt in which case guess what - I didn't say anything about listening to anything on those headphones. Just having them on provides enough insulation that you don't need to pipe in any additional sound

Re:Why Open Offices? by masklinn on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @11:44AM (#9969360)
> Large over-ear headphones exert NO pressure on any part of the ear. They are basically inverted cups that go over and around your ear and insulate.

You don't say.

> Are you saying those don't work for you?

Yes, it's not a question of pressure on the external ear or I'd have said "my ears are too large" and wouldn't have mentioned the middle ear.

> Unless you're talking about the volume of music making your ears hurt

No, it's not a question of volume.

> I didn't say anything about listening to anything on those headphones.

Neither did I, though

> Just having them on provides enough insulation that you don't need to pipe in any additional sound

Hardly, even with high-quality closed 'phones.

Re:Why Open Offices? by deanCommie on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @11:55AM (#9969448)
So then what are you saying? Wearing comfortable large headphones with quiet ambient noise and active noise cancellation causes you pain in your inner ear?
Re:Why Open Offices? by masklinn on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @02:31PM (#9970628)
Middle ear, and no active noise cancellation is even needed.
Re:Why Open Offices? by Anderkent on Thursday July 30, 2015 @12:05PM (#9975926)
You possibly just accept the 0.05% of your employees who cannot wear headphones are going to work somewhere else / be less performant.

Aside: I still don't quite get what exactly about the headphones is causing you pain? If you have them on, without playing anything, is that painful? (in which case maybe lighter ones that exert no pressure on the skull could help?) Is it the volume? Is there some weird property of sound produced by the headphones that is not present in general noise, that causes the pain?

(please don't take this as me disbelieving you, I'm just curious)

Re:Why Open Offices? by Symbiote on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @12:21PM (#9969680)
> [0] this is a generic "you", I know the specific you is not the one who originally made this assertion.

In case you're not a native speaker, the pronoun one uses in English is "one".

Re:Why Open Offices? by madeofpalk on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @08:57AM (#9968283)
> I can't wear headphones. [...] Now what?

Thankfully you're in the minority and everyone else is quiet wearing headphones, so you don't have to.

Re:Why Open Offices? by AlexandrB on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @09:16AM (#9968368)
Can't tell if you're joking. Poe's law...
Re:Why Open Offices? by madeofpalk on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @09:31AM (#9968463)
Joking, but I'm guessing in practice it would be somewhat true?