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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by noinsight on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @04:41AM (#9967131)
That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.
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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by jbk on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @05:44AM (#9967412)
> That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection.

How do you not circumvent the copy protection to read a DVD?

(See my various talks about libdvdcss)

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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by theandrewbailey on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @09:16AM (#9968365)
It's probably not circumvention if you're using a licensed reader/player.
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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by germanier on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @05:29AM (#9967350)
I'm pretty sure it isn't (anymore) in all cases or it would run afoul EU Directive 2001/29 (see also the ECJ Nintendo case of 2014).
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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by airza on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @05:12AM (#9967261)
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection in the US, as well.
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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by germanier on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @05:34AM (#9967368)
I'm no expert in US law but this US copyright office decision suggests that it's legal in some cases: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

The case here seems more related to the MPEG patents though.

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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by airza on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @01:36PM (#9970201)
My brain went to DeCSS, which, weirdly, the DVD licensing company lost because enough people had (illegally?) published it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Copy_Control_Ass%27n,_Inc....

I think there was also the Sony jailbreaking guy who settled with Sony out of court.

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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by shocks on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @04:47AM (#9967163)
How much is the fine?
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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by noinsight on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @05:26AM (#9967335)
It's hard to find working links for old stuff (this was in ~2007), but...

The law made "organized discussion" about breaking copy protection illegal so they also created a website with the title "organized discussion" and displayed code for breaking the protection and someone also paid 5 cents for it after which they turned themselves in :)

Apparently the lower courts acquitted them but that was reversed and the supreme court didn't take the case. So the end result is that it's illegal but they didn't receive any penalties. Apparently the European court of human rights didn't accept the case either.

http://mjr.iki.fi/eucd/ (discussed here in Finnish)

http://www.digitoday.fi/yhteiskunta/2008/05/26/dvdn-katselu-... (news article about it)

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Re:Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today by shocks on Wednesday July 29, 2015 @07:26AM (#9967834)
Heh, nice. Thanks!
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