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Re:Social Justice, Ideological Hijackings, and Ideological S... by pessimizer on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @09:02AM (#9929323)
Are you complaining that the anarchists seem extreme?

This entire discussion is ahistorical. Anarchists have murdered dozens of policemen, dozens of bosses, an American president and dozens of elected officials, and dozens of people for what they said all over the world. Anarchism is not about a fantasy of organizing society after the zombie apocalypse, it's a body of thought with a few hundred years of tradition. Feminism is central to that tradition.

Gamergate is some bizarre internet misogynist media panic from last year.

Re:Social Justice, Ideological Hijackings, and Ideological S... by zamalek on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @09:28AM (#9929473)
> Are you complaining that the anarchists seem extreme?

Not complaining about anarchists at all. I'm fairly uneducated about their beliefs but I have come to understand that they are not completely unreasonable.

> Gamergate is some bizarre internet misogynist media panic from last year.

It's this that's spilling over into every discussion that I'm talking about. The origin of the anarcha-feminists on Reddit is most likely GG backlash. There is concern on that website that anti-GG extremists are taking over and it looks like /r/anarchism is yet another subreddit in the crosshairs; it's yet another completely unrelated discussion getting dragged into this internet misogyny/misandry.

My advice to you is: if you really care about anarchism then let /r/anarchy burn. Just leave. I don't care if you go to Voat. I don't care if you start your own website. I don't care if you leave the internet. Just abandon ship and rid yourself of this argument. You can't win because your opponent is not interested in a decisive outcome: your opponent is interested in noise and harassment.

Re:Social Justice, Ideological Hijackings, and Ideological S... by pessimizer on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @09:44AM (#9929585)
You're mistaking me for an internet anarchist. I don't know anything about reddit, or much about anarchist discussion on the internet.

There are many wonderful archives of historical anarchist thought on the internet, making sources that were really difficult or impossible to find when I was young (before the internet) available to everyone in a few keystrokes.

Gamergate is completely insignificant, but positive in that the ensuing media panic exposed people to how difficult it is to be a woman or a minority on the internet.

Re:Social Justice, Ideological Hijackings, and Ideological S... by cjsthompson on Wednesday July 22, 2015 @02:58PM (#9931590)
Since when do anarchists care about "tradition"? Tradition is central to right wing ideology. And since when is feminism central to anarchism? I guess since marxist-inspired leftists (and now SJWs) hijacked it distorting the meaning of this word beyond recognition in the process. Where's the feminism in Bakunin, Kropotkin or even worse Proudhon?