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Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mojuba on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @09:22AM (#99226)
Expect to see lots and lots of Java in MySQL in the near future. The worst thing that could happen to any good software project - intrusion of Java - will happen almost certainly to MySQL.
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by rcoder on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @12:52PM (#99348)
Actually, MySQL could really use an embedded procedure-writing language. Java wouldn't be the worst choice they could make, especially given the proliferation of other languages implemented atop the JVM -- being able to use JRuby for stored procedures inside a running MySQL instance (with no network I/O or marshalling overhead) would pretty much rock.

Of course, you could also just use Postgres, which already lets you embed your choice of scripting language(s) in the database server...

Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mojuba on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @10:25AM (#99264)
Got downvoted on reddit for a similar remark. The only logical conclusion I can derive from that is "Ron Paul likes Java".
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mynameishere on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @11:19AM (#99303)
"Ron Paul likes Java"

Nah, too black.

Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mynameishere on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @05:12PM (#99476)
Lame downmods. It's just a joke.
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by pius on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @06:50PM (#99542)
I haven't downmodded you (at least, not yet), but all I'm going to say is that (1) it's a lame joke and (2) there's a pattern with you and this crap.

Quoth you a couple months ago:

If there is anybody here who thinks that blacks and Jews are genetically equivilent [sic] in intelligence, raise your hands. Please, I beg you. (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=88082)

Was today's comment so bad? Nope, just lame. Unfortunately, people make logical leaps where they shouldn't. As you said so eloquently in another thread when you asserted that blacks must obviously be stupid: at what point does the evidence become overwhelming?

Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mynameishere on Thursday January 17, 2008 @01:21AM (#99663)
Yeah, I'm still waiting for some evidence for that particular claim. You might think it "bad", and bad as it might be, I'm perfectly willing to believe whatever the evidence points to. There just isn't much.

By the way, for anyone who missed it, the media ran its usual hit pieces against Ron Paul, accusing him of racism, etc, etc. Hence my (admittedly lame) joke.

Re:Sun Buys MySQL by yters on Friday January 18, 2008 @05:46AM (#100252)
(Comment about things you can't say)
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by ALee on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @09:43AM (#99240)
I guess it is good for us since we program in Java and MySQL, although I definitely wouldn't want Sun to run the great MySQL product into the ground.
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by Xichekolas on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @10:08AM (#99252)
Java Intrusion is almost the worst thing... it could be worse though... Adobe could have bought MySQL and converted it to native ColdFusion (running on Java).
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by Xichekolas on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @11:26AM (#99305)
Op, must have found a ColdFusion fan on YC News... I used to write that for a job for years... rest assured, the affliction can be cured!
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by edw519 on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @09:26AM (#99230)
I was worried about the same thing. Got an example of what you're worrying about?
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mojuba on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @10:12AM (#99253)
Take the history of OpenOffice. Pre-2.0 didn't require you to install Java. The problem is that Java VM is a commercial product controlled by Sun. By restricting Java VM to certain platforms Sun can potentially kill OSes they don't like, because with no OpenOffice (now also MySQL) an OS can be considered dead. This is worrisome - well, for those who don't trust Sun at least.
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by LogicHoleFlaw on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @11:40AM (#99313)
Except that, you know, Java is going fully open-source. VM and the whole works.
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mojuba on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @11:50AM (#99320)
As I wrote below, yes, somehow missed the news about JVM, but the thing is, as an example, MySQL is GPL'd too and it is not quite open (and I still don't get it how they managed to take GPL down that way).
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by hhm on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @01:01PM (#99354)
As far as I know, they keep a dual license; every change in the code goes for both licenses, excepting those changes they want to keep closed, those going only for the non-GPL license. Only the real owner of the software (not the licensee) has the right to do this kind of stuff with GPL.

Please correct me if I'm wrong in my guess.

Re:Sun Buys MySQL by maw on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @04:01PM (#99444)
You got it right. http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/Code_Contributing_FAQ has more information.

Other companies with a split proprietary/free model require copyright assignments for contributions as well. So, too, does the FSF, although for rather different reasons.

Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mojuba on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @03:59PM (#99442)
Just checked their web site - you are right.
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by gills on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @10:36AM (#99272)
There is a language spec, you can write your own VM (I wouldn't recommend it...).
Re:Sun Buys MySQL by mojuba on Wednesday January 16, 2008 @11:41AM (#99314)
Actually JVM is GPL'd already, somehow missed the news, so it's not that worrisome.