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Re:The self-hating web developer by facetube on Sunday July 19, 2015 @12:33PM (#9911694)
FWIW, PHP 4.x was completely awful for large and/or OOP codebases due to the totally insane copy-by-default semantics, the need to use &= perfectly at every call site that returned an instance of a class, and a handful of reference-counting bugs that caused interpreter crashes and still weren't fixed when 5.x matured.

It's definitely gotten better; I feel like a lot of people who swore off PHP forever are remembering version four.

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Re:The self-hating web developer by noir_lord on Sunday July 19, 2015 @12:48PM (#9911760)
> I feel like a lot of people who swore off PHP forever are remembering version four.

I think that's a valid point however I'm not sure if that is better or worse when they are attacking something.

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Re:The self-hating web developer by facetube on Sunday July 19, 2015 @09:48PM (#9913646)
Oh, almost certainly worse, unless Rasmus Lerdorf is going on another mailing list tirade and flaming them directly.
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