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Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Dylan16807 on Saturday July 18, 2015 @06:20AM (#9907150)
A statistical summary of salary for the job is almost as good as knowing everyone's salary, and better than knowing the exact salary of your direct peers but not more.

So in such a situation there's little upside. You already know you're not getting scraps.

But there's a painful downside in knowing exactly who the company thinks does worse work than their direct peers.

Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by woah on Saturday July 18, 2015 @06:51AM (#9907192)
What are you talking about? Salary for equivalent positions is only tenuously connected to performance. The only people who benefit from salary secrecy are employers, and they benefit greatly.
Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Dylan16807 on Saturday July 18, 2015 @07:03AM (#9907233)
>Salary for equivalent positions is only tenuously connected to performance.

But it's often supposed to be, and so salary differences can hurt feelings just as much as if the correlation was perfect. Or they can hurt feelings because the actual reason for the difference is unfair.

>The only people who benefit from salary secrecy are employers, and they benefit greatly.

Is that always the case? Remember, in this scenario we have a detailed knowledge of equivalent position salary, we just don't know which of those thousands of numbers belong to our coworkers. How does that remaining ignorance hurt me in any notable way?

Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Retra on Saturday July 18, 2015 @12:08PM (#9907903)
There's a painful downside in knowing you have cancer, but that doesn't mean a doctor can (or should) withhold that information from you.
Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Dylan16807 on Saturday July 18, 2015 @04:28PM (#9908786)
You already know if you have cancer. The doctor not only can withhold information about your neighbor, they are mandated to.
Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Retra on Sunday July 19, 2015 @03:01PM (#9912391)
You're taking the wrong part of that analogy. My point is that it is not the doctors responsibility to withhold information in the name of protecting me from "painful feelings." Other patient's health information isn't relevant to me. Other employee's pay is.
Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Dylan16807 on Sunday July 19, 2015 @05:09PM (#9912829)
Can you explain why anonymous pay info isn't good enough?

I'm not saying that hurt feelings should override important info, but if the info isn't important, and it's not about you, then maybe hurt feelings should be considered.

Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Retra on Monday July 20, 2015 @06:23PM (#9919514)
If I want to improve my (or my company's) ability to make decisions, I need to know how the decisions are made, including knowledge about what is valued.

Let's say I'm playing a game of poker. I know what my hand is, but nobody else's. You are telling me that I am advantaged simply by knowing the odds associated with my hand.

Great.

Except my opponent across the table can see everyone's hand. And they are telling me I should go all in.

That's why anonymous info isn't good enough: it's only anonymous to the losers.

Re:Ex-Googler says she exposed company-wide pay inequality w... by Dylan16807 on Monday July 20, 2015 @08:29PM (#9919980)
In poker the hands of everyone else directly affect you.

This is more like knowing everyone else's hands in blackjack.