Re:Behind Germany’s refusal to grant Greece debt relief
by MarkMc on Saturday July 11, 2015 @11:14PM
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I don't understand why you rail against the 'German establishment'. Aren't they just implanting the wishes of the German people? Same for the Finns, Latvians, etc.
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Re:Behind Germany’s refusal to grant Greece debt relief
by tomp on Sunday July 12, 2015 @01:34AM
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Many people in EU think about the situation as "give Greeks more money" vs "give Greeks 0 money", whereas in reality the situation is "get some Greek debt repaid" vs "get 0 Greek debt repaid". Obviously, in the first case, the latter is the better option, while in the second case, the former is. It's mainly the politicians' fault of presenting the issue in terms of the first two options to their people.
Re:Behind Germany’s refusal to grant Greece debt relief
by gonvaled on Sunday July 12, 2015 @01:29AM
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Sure, they are maybe implementing the wishes of the people ... or shaping public opinion. I bet that framing this crisis as a humanitarian issue and a people vs banks issue, instead of as a lazy greek vs industrious germans, would have fostered solidarity between european nations instead of increasing nationalistic tensions.
We are far away from the climate pre WWI/WWII, but that is the direction we have chosen. Let's hope the next round of politicians are able to take a broader view, and that the current situation is reversible.
Re:Behind Germany’s refusal to grant Greece debt relief
by coldtea on Sunday July 12, 2015 @12:16AM
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Nope, they play on them and manipulate them to save German banks.
It's the "too big too fail" scenario, this time with the Eurozone playing the part of the federal government. Greece plays the role of the people getting mortgages that couldn't afford to repay post bubble.
The punishment of Greece (and other countries in turn, including France) will be used to clamp down on the German population in the end and keep them accepting of austerity and neo-liberal measures of their own.