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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by hga on Monday July 06, 2015 @09:35AM (#9838958)
Correlation does not imply causation. As noted elsewhere in this discussion, there are plenty of other potentially relevant correlations, and as also noted, if you cast the net wider than the ODEC we no longer are an "extreme outlier".
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by res0nat0r on Monday July 06, 2015 @09:39AM (#9838975)
I'm not sure how we've deluded ourselves into thinking that the two are not directly related. As other commenters have mentioned, it isn't big scary guns, but the hundreds of millions of handguns everywhere and easily available in the USA that do most of the damage.
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by hga on Monday July 06, 2015 @09:53AM (#9839048)
See where I just commented on the fact that our murder rate has halved since the 1970-90s period while gun ownership rates have not changed, strongly suggesting we should look elsewhere, perhaps, as I note, demographics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9838517
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by res0nat0r on Monday July 06, 2015 @10:09AM (#9839163)
The murder rate overall has gone down, but we are still an outlier when it comes to the number of guns and gun homicides.
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by tedunangst on Monday July 06, 2015 @10:53AM (#9839506)
This is a strange definition of correlated, where one variable changes and the other does not.
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by res0nat0r on Monday July 06, 2015 @12:34PM (#9840276)
Our outlier high gun homicide rate is dependent on our extremely high number of guns easily available to commit those homicides.
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by hga on Monday July 06, 2015 @01:13PM (#9840590)
So you're saying these two variables are correlated, even though they are not, in fact, correlated?
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by res0nat0r on Monday July 06, 2015 @01:33PM (#9840764)
They are correlated.
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Re:De-Obfuscating the Statistics of Mass Shootings by tedunangst on Monday July 06, 2015 @01:54PM (#9840910)
Who's on first?
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