Re:Farewell to America: Returning to England After 12 Years ...
by kawakiole on Saturday July 04, 2015 @07:56AM
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>> Black people don't commit more murders because they're black
>That's a hypothesis. You're free to go about proving or evidencing your position.
Here in Switzerland black Swiss do not commit more murders than other "races". Surely you won't argue the alpine winds changed their genome with respect to black Americans now would you?
Re:Farewell to America: Returning to England After 12 Years ...
by JoeAltmaier on Saturday July 04, 2015 @09:29AM
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Ok, minefield here, but 'black' isn't a genome. In fact, Africa, cradle of all humanity, has more genetic diversity even today than the rest of the world.
Re:Farewell to America: Returning to England After 12 Years ...
by cb18 on Saturday July 04, 2015 @12:25PM
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If one were to evaluate that hypothesis, the data from Switzerland would probably not be particularly helpful and may be potentially misleading because it is a small sample size, and as you may know Switzerland is particularly judicious in who it allows to immigrate which one would imagine results in a skewing of the general population dynamics.
Re:Farewell to America: Returning to England After 12 Years ...
by JesperRavn on Saturday July 04, 2015 @01:15PM
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Here in Switzerland black Swiss do not commit more murders than other "races".
[citation needed]
Race(genetic relatedness within certain bounds) isn't purely skin colour, race is a whole host genetic expressions that develop over time in response to selection factors in an environment. Skin colour being one of the more visible of these genetic expressions.
Black people don't commit more murders because they're black - they commit more murders because they live in under-resourced, under-educated, poor communities
That's a hypothesis. You're free to go about proving or evidencing your position in whatever way you see fit then presenting your data to our peers for evaluation.
The unfortunate fact is that blacks have elevated levels of criminality compared to other races across all socio-economic categories.
A white person and a black person are equally likely to commit a murder given the same set of circumstances
Again, this is a hypothesis and you are free to try and establish a base of evidence to support it(although good science simply evaluates hypotheses against impartially collected evidence). A couple things off the top of my head you may be interested in as you evaluate this hypothesis.
I believe there have been studies looking into racial variability among things like impulse control, and what is known as "future time horizon." I can't seem to find any of them at the moment.
Another thing to consider, there are a number of very poor white areas in the US, I think some of the poorest counties in the US are mostly white. I'm also pretty sure the crime rates in those areas are not as high as comparable black areas. Feel free to double check that.
Implying that blackness is a causal factor is both entirely wrong and
I don't know how you got that implication from my previous comment which simply stated the fact that the crime rate among blacks is much higher than among whites and other races.
hugely racist.
If you want to discuss these matters productively it's really best to avoid jumping to words such as "racist" that, when not clearly describing obscene behavior, are just used in attempt to discredit other people.