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Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by Merovius on Thursday July 02, 2015 @04:41AM (#9817569)
I never understood, why this is a problem. We live in a society of abundance. Tying coverage of living expenses to work done, just leads to people doing pointless work. This is at least the reality in Germany: There aren't enough jobs for everyone, people live under the illusion that it is wrong to just subsidize people living, thus the government rather subsidizes jobs, that are not profitable to be done by people (my mother crimped cables from home for a living, something that can be done by a machine for a fraction of the price in orders of magnitude less time).

Apart from that, it is called "basic income", not "luxurious income". Ask these people if they still wouldn't work if the alternative is not being able to afford a smartphone, Game console, plasma TV or car.

Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by mcv on Thursday July 02, 2015 @10:45AM (#9819198)
We need to get rid of the myth that everybody needs to work. Better would be to automate all the work so nobody has to work anymore.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by brobinson on Thursday July 02, 2015 @01:18PM (#9820246)
Who owns the machines in that system? The government?
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by mcv on Thursday July 02, 2015 @02:21PM (#9820630)
I don't care who owns them, as long as the value they produce is at least partially shared.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by Noelkd on Thursday July 02, 2015 @03:50PM (#9821180)
If you haven't read this[1] I think you might enjoy it. It covers the ideas you are talking about. I think it was featured on HN some time back.

[1] http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by brobinson on Thursday July 02, 2015 @04:22PM (#9821369)
This is awesome. Thanks for linking it.

I've had dreams of doing this to an In-n-Out location. Every one I've been to has had all the employees doing every job like a scatterbrained beehive, and it takes 15-20 minutes to get your food.