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Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by onion2k on Thursday July 02, 2015 @03:51AM (#9817397)
Which means the shitty jobs will have to pay more in order to attract people to do them. People should be paid well for taking on a job no one else wants. That's how the free market is supposed to work.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by fwn on Thursday July 02, 2015 @05:58AM (#9817855)
So what makes you think that's not the case? We're not observing a shortage in unskilled work right now.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by ZenoArrow on Thursday July 02, 2015 @07:17AM (#9818135)
People aren't necessarily compensated extra for taking on a job that nobody wants.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by fwn on Thursday July 02, 2015 @07:21AM (#9818152)
...because there are enough people wanting to do the job in the first place.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by ZenoArrow on Thursday July 02, 2015 @07:31AM (#9818173)
Yes, but that includes wanting to do the job because they want to live, but not necessarily because they see it as a good use of their time beyond that.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by s73v3r on Thursday July 02, 2015 @03:07PM (#9820932)
Because right now, people are forced to work in order to survive. Meaning they have to take the shitty jobs for shitty pay because that's what they can get. If you remove the forced to work part, then they can be more selective.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by fwn on Friday July 03, 2015 @08:29AM (#9825098)
Being force to work is not the same as the need to work to fulfill personal needs and goals.

That is one key difference between slaves and early farmers.

Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by s73v3r on Monday July 06, 2015 @04:07PM (#9841848)
Perhaps. However, currently, people are forced to work. You need a job in order to pay for a roof over your head and food in your stomach.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by fwn on Tuesday July 07, 2015 @11:20AM (#9845979)
This "force" to work is even stronger if you aim for a Helicopter. Helicopters are so expensive, they force you really hard.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by s73v3r on Tuesday July 07, 2015 @11:53AM (#9846193)
I'm talking about the basic necessities of life. Whether you choose to admit it or not, one is forced to have a job in order to provide basic shelter, clothing, and food for ones self and family.
Re:A Dutch city is giving money away to test the basic incom... by fwn on Tuesday July 07, 2015 @01:35PM (#9846856)
I know what you are talking about, but: The term "force" is utterly missplaced in this scenario. ..also: Most in the civilized world have broad welfare benefits for those who decide not to work.