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Re:Leaked: What's in TPP’s intellectual property chapter by jessaustin on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @05:25PM (#9815289)
I, for one, am glad to learn that we can fix all this by voting more often, or better, or whatever. Now that I think back, my junior high civics class taught me the same thing!
Re:Leaked: What's in TPP’s intellectual property chapter by slg on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @05:43PM (#9815403)
I am sensing sarcasm, so I just want to point to the 2014 primary turnout numbers. Less than 18% [1] of total eligible voters cast a ballot in the 2014 primary elections. When you have that much apathy, it suddenly becomes a lot easier to sway elections with a few million dollars.

[1] - http://humanevents.com/2014/10/08/republican-2014-primary-tu...

Re:Leaked: What's in TPP’s intellectual property chapter by TeMPOraL on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @05:35PM (#9815349)
Only if you'd scale that up to the entire country.

But maybe not even then. You vote for the candidate that can best convince you to vote for them. So this is the metric the system will optimize for. Politicians that make good decisions or stick to their principles get outcompeted by those who focus on marketing themselves and pandering to the public. Even if you make the electorate more educated and engaged, this will only do so much to fix the misalignment of values. Unless you know a way to immunize someone to marketing completely, I see no hope for fixing voting. I infer that every democracy, as it matures, degenerates into a popularity contest.

Re:Leaked: What's in TPP’s intellectual property chapter by zanny on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @05:43PM (#9815408)
It also does nothing to correct the apathetic public we have had for the past... sixty? Years. The incredible amount of gerrymandering done to rig the house of representatives is incredible, and the Senate is already inherently biased because its giving every voter in Wyoming 67 times the influence of a voter of California. Unsurprisingly, Wyoming has not elected a non-Republican senator in over fifty years.

It should be no surprise that the will of the people no longer has any real correlation with the policy voted into law by congress.

Re:Leaked: What's in TPP’s intellectual property chapter by TeMPOraL on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @06:10PM (#9815584)
Apathy may be something that grows with time as well. It seems to me (though I don't have much evidence to back it up so I welcome being shown I'm wrong) that a lifespan of a functioning democracy is ~100 years. The people who shed blood for it care. Their children are taught to care as well. But the grand-grand-children, born into a working system, don't have any context of how it was before that would give them motivation to care and perform required maintenance. And then, the system starts to degrade.
Re:Leaked: What's in TPP’s intellectual property chapter by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @06:36PM (#9815714)
And for the US, one could plausibly start that 100 year clock in 1865, rather than in 1789. That would put the start of the apathy in 1965. Feels about right.

(Unless you're going to count it from 1945, in which case the real apathy hasn't started yet.)

Re:Leaked: What's in TPP’s intellectual property chapter by jessaustin on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @08:32PM (#9816216)
We have not yet begun not to care!