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Re:Brazil's gamble on deep water oil by Roritharr on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @05:44AM (#9810859)
Correct. I find the image, that there is a max amount of oil we can use up without making the earth uninhabitable for humans, much more tangible.

That separates the actual existance of oil fields from their extraction and offers a direct point of blame, something which we seem to need.

The person/organisation that draws the drop that kills earth will be the one we should focus and prosecute, and we should announce that beforehand, so that nobody wants to be that person.

Re:Brazil's gamble on deep water oil by ArkyBeagle on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @09:00AM (#9811510)
The carrying capacity for humans on Earth pre-fossil fuels was roughly 1 billion.

We're up to 7 billion now. And we're comfortable enough to actually notice the environment in a way people even 60 years ago were not.

I think this is causal - fossil fuels made 6/7ths of us possible.

Re:Brazil's gamble on deep water oil by saryant on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @09:19AM (#9811594)
It's absolutely true. Daniel Yergin wrote what is largely considered to be the definitive history of oil and makes the compelling case that modern humanity is only possible because of our 20th century transformation into Hydrocarbon Man. Kerosene lengthened the working day, oil created the post-war society we currently enjoy and made possible the amazing increase in agricultural productivity over the past several decades.

For all its ills and drawbacks, oil made modern civilization possible.

Re:Brazil's gamble on deep water oil by dredmorbius on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @11:17AM (#9812363)
Phenomenal book. Hugely recommended.

And that's despite disagreeing strongly with Yergin's petro-optimism.

He absolutely knows his subject.

Re:Brazil's gamble on deep water oil by ArkyBeagle on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @07:32PM (#9815972)
Yergin's book is a classic.
Re:Brazil's gamble on deep water oil by the8472 on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @10:45AM (#9812133)
Just like slavery helped us build civilizations in the past. That's not an argument for continued use once the problems are recognized.

A currently large population means nothing if it's not sustainable.

Re:Brazil's gamble on deep water oil by ArkyBeagle on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @07:33PM (#9815977)
What exactly do you think replaced slavery?