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Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by trhway on Friday June 26, 2015 @02:18PM (#9786670)
>I don't think that's the full story. I suspect that religious marriage existed long before nation states and most of the current legal distinctions associated with marriage.

I suspect that marriage - a man/wife pairing (or 1-to-N grouping) recognized by the tribe/village with respect to all those legal distinctions related to property, children, etc... - existed long before the religion.

Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by caskance on Friday June 26, 2015 @04:29PM (#9787537)
That would require humans to have existed before religion, which is frankly quite ridiculous.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by Crito on Friday June 26, 2015 @05:46PM (#9787949)
Are we supposing religious monkeys now? It wouldn't surprise me if earlier hominids were religious as well, but to call any other possibility "quite ridiculous" is really overstepping.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by caskance on Sunday June 28, 2015 @01:28AM (#9792524)
Not if you've ever met a human.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by vacri on Friday June 26, 2015 @09:25PM (#9788689)
You don't think that there were humans that existed before any form of codified spirituality? I'd be willing to believe that explicit ritual bonding (marriage) didn't predate religion, but find it hard to believe that the first words we uttered went along with some sort of priestly social class or referenceable rules for living.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by gpvos on Saturday June 27, 2015 @05:42AM (#9789633)
I don't know what the current state of research on this is, but I find it entirely plausible that rituals and social control existed before language.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by vacri on Saturday June 27, 2015 @06:51AM (#9789774)
Well, even creatures as low as termites and sardines exhibit mechanisms for social control - but it's not codified.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by caskance on Sunday June 28, 2015 @01:28AM (#9792521)
Why does it have to codified?
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by wj on Friday June 26, 2015 @04:41PM (#9787613)
I do not follow?
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by caskance on Sunday June 28, 2015 @01:28AM (#9792522)
It's not a very long sentence. What part is confusing?
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by wj on Monday June 29, 2015 @04:44PM (#9800902)
It seems to me that the words 'humans' and 'religion' are inverted?
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by caskance on Tuesday June 30, 2015 @08:32PM (#9809262)
Not at all. Religion was born the first time a thinking creature looked up at the sky. Most likely some pre-homo sapiens hominid.