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Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by zzzeek on Friday June 26, 2015 @12:34PM (#9785841)
the word "regulated" is the third word of the second amendment.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by lisper on Friday June 26, 2015 @01:10PM (#9786164)
That's true, but it doesn't mean what you think it means. In context (both textual and historical) it means "well-functioning", not "constrained." i.e. it means "In order to have a well-function militia, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." And the Supreme Court has (correctly IMHO) upheld this interpretation.

I'm all for repealing the Second Amendment. I am vehemently opposed to trying to do end-runs around it.

Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by zzzeek on Friday June 26, 2015 @02:37PM (#9786795)
how are the rights of 8 year olds protected that they can't go to a gunshop unattended and buy a gun? or a convicted felon? how can something be a "right" if it's revocable? how is the word "arms" defined? Why can't I purchase a grenade launcher (after all, if you really want to build a "militia" capable of defending against the British re-invading, you're going to need them)? The 2nd amendment in practice is subject to tremendous levels of regulation. The kinds of regulations most Americans want, e.g. simple waiting periods to allow background checks, are a tiny frill of a regulation compared to how heavily regulated "the right to bear arms" already is.
Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by lisper on Friday June 26, 2015 @02:51PM (#9786910)
> Why can't I purchase a grenade launcher

Because the second amendment isn't really taken seriously by anyone, not even the gun nuts. If it were taken seriously, it would become immediately obvious to everyone that it has become horribly dated by the advent of modern weapons technology and it needs to be changed. And then we could have an honest debate about where we ought to draw the line between weapons that people not in the military ought to be allowed to have, because everyone agrees the line needs to be drawn somewhere, even if it's just at WMDs. But no one seems to want to actually have that debate.

Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by zzzeek on Friday June 26, 2015 @06:27PM (#9788111)
> Because the second amendment isn't really taken seriously by anyone, not even the gun nuts.

check out this article / video: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/texas-guns-poncho-neva... - the "constitution" is the entire rationale that open carriers use to call congresspeople "traitors" and threaten them inside their offices.

Re:Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules by lisper on Friday June 26, 2015 @07:56PM (#9788426)
Sure, but I don't hear anyone -- not even the open carry folks -- calling for the legalization of personal nukes.