Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by mburns on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @12:58AM
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MacOS System 7.5.x shipped on ~100MHz PowerPC chips with ~24MB of RAM, a bit higher in the later models. So the Watch most certainly has more processing power.
The real problem is emulating PPC -> ARM, which is a very slow process, and why the boot time is so long in the video.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by WoodenChair on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @01:07AM
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For the record, my Performa 6116CD which shipped with 7.5 had a 60 MHZ PPC 601 and 8 MB RAM. It could run on significantly less than that as well - in fact I believe it ran as far back as on some 80s machines.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by barclay on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @01:24AM
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Yup. I had an LC520 (25 MHz 030--not that far back from your 6116) that ran 7.5.x.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by Moto7451 on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @02:22AM
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7.5.5 was the last version that ran on the Mac Plus, SE, Classic, and various other 8MHz 68000 Macs.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by Tloewald on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @10:08AM
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Right but it ran System 7.0.x.
System 7.5 had OpenDoc, so it ran in two modes: fast, light, and stable, OR with OpenDoc.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by iiiggglll on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @02:18AM
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Not to mention the classic MacOS of that era had considerable amounts of code still written in 68k assembly, so a lot of what you're seeing is actually being emulated as 68k -> PPC -> ARM.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by durin42 on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @08:12AM
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I think I saw "mini vmac" come up, so I believe this is emulating a 68000 directly, not with an extra layer in the middle.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by bghhgycff on Thursday June 25, 2015 @12:31AM
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It's emulating a Mac Plus.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by vbezhenar on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @02:46AM
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Processing power is not only frequency and memory. Different instruction sets might show drastically different performance. Processor cache might be higher on old computer (or might not, of course). Memory bandwidth or latency might differ too. I remember reading comparison between 1990 mainframe and current intel server. Mainframe has much higher memory bandwidth and performed much faster on tasks where processor cache was insufficient.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by conradev on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @01:27AM
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My understanding is that it is an A5 processor that is tuned for battery life, at the cost of performance. It all depends on the performance of the emulator, because OS 7 is not compiled for ARM.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by kalleboo on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @04:26AM
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> A5 processor that is tuned for battery life, at the cost of performance
It probably also has quite severe temperature scaling.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by morsch on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @05:40AM
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I wonder why? After all, it's directly attached to a huge heatsink with a sophisticated liquid cooling setup that ensures it will stay at a comfortable 37C -- it will even do evaporative cooling when necessary, going so far as to replenish the liquid reservoir on its own.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by kelnos on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @06:16AM
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That sounds... uncomfortable. Seriously.
Re:Mac OS 7.5.5 running on Apple Watch [video]
by Tloewald on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @10:09AM
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Imagine the marketing: "and it uses YOUR body as its cooling system"!
http://www.cultofmac.com/320279/how-powerful-is-the-apple-wa...