I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

Re:I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American an... by lukeschlather on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @11:56AM (#9765486)

We're not really talking about opening the borders to STEM employees. We're talking about keeping highly educated people, educated at US universities, in the country.

There is some exploitation that happens, but by and large people are going to pay market rate +-15%, minus administrative costs. Administrative costs for hiring immigrants are extremely high, so it makes sense that their wages might be a bit less. (The best way to raise their wages is to reduce the administrative costs.)

The system as it is structured right now is basically designed as a foreign aid program. It encourages foreigners to come to the US, get a degree, work for a few years while saving a lot of money, then go home and invest it in building a new business not in this country.

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Re:I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American an... by bruceb on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @01:44PM (#9766312)

How is it foreign aid for students to come here pay higher tuition to some schools who would be much worse without them, spend money in the US and then go home? Most students don't come here and save a bunch of money.

They are taking money from their home country and spending it in the US. It is like anti-foreign aid.

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Re:I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American an... by kristjansson on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @04:16PM (#9767474)

Not the parent, but:

From the perspective of the students, yes, there is a financial transfer to the U.S. However, from national perspective, there is an economic transfer to the other nation. The U.S. university system represents the product of decades (centuries in some cases) of public and private investment. Foreign students and the societies they return to get the benefit of that investment - a better educated than could be trained locally - without having made it themselves. Hence, an economic transfer from the US to the other nation.

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Re:I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American an... by bruceb on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @07:10PM (#9768422)

You think all those going to school in the US are brilliant students? There are a ton of students who just have money and go to school in the US. They go to US universities who are in part propped up by the money spent by these students.

Having these type of students go back is not a lose. In fact they bring with them a demand for American goods, and culture.

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Re:I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American an... by lukeschlather on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @08:36PM (#9768817)

I said it was foreign aid, in that it benefits their home countries more than the US. But economics is not zero-sum, so just because it amounts to foreign aid doesn't mean it's a loss per se, just that the US could be getting more out of the deal than it currently is.

I think it would probably be better for everyone if we streamlined the process of transitioning from an H1B to permanent residency, and it would definitely be better for the US economy.

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