Why Greet Apple's Swift 2.0 With Open Arms?

Re:Why Greet Apple's Swift 2.0 With Open Arms? by anon1385 on Thursday June 18, 2015 @07:21AM (#9737856)

I'm not sure that is the credo. At least, it's not the credo behind the GPL. Every day I use software that is at least partly GPL code, but I can't access the source code. Why? Because I used a webapp. If the software you use is running on a server rather than your local machine then the GPL says you don't get to have 'freedom'.

So "users" isn't a useful distinction when it comes to Free Software, because the GPL doesn't guarantee freedom for users. It only guarantees freedom for the person who owns and controls the hardware.

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Re:Why Greet Apple's Swift 2.0 With Open Arms? by pron on Thursday June 18, 2015 @07:41AM (#9737924)

When the GPL was written, this kind of software wasn't very common. Now that it is, the FSP formalized the AGPL, which they recommend over the GPL for server-side software.

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Re:Why Greet Apple's Swift 2.0 With Open Arms? by anon1385 on Thursday June 18, 2015 @12:22PM (#9739642)

Nearly any software is potentially server side software. So really they should recommend AGPL for everything, and relicence all FSF owned projects as AGPL.

They don't because a lot of people even inside the FOSS community are violently opposed to the AGPL. Quite a few people think that it conflicts with Freedom Zero.

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Re:Why Greet Apple's Swift 2.0 With Open Arms? by Flimm on Thursday June 18, 2015 @07:30AM (#9737883)

Good point. That's more precise summary of their credo and it's narrower than the "community".

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