Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by mikro2nd on Thursday June 18, 2015 @04:56AM
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"when you have written a letter that you feel may possibly irritate your friend, ... put it aside till the next day"
I have a similar policy. Upon receiving an email that makes me hyperventilate even a little, or sets my pulse racing just a bit, by all means draft a reply immediately -- frequently emotional and full of invective -- but the set it aside for at least 24 hours. 48 in more severe cases. Then, and only then, re-read the message that got me all hot and bothered in the first place, re-read my draft reply (assuming I did that) and then redraft as needed before hitting "Send".
I call this my "24-hour Rule" and apply it always.
Then there's the "Never Hit Send While After Even a Single Drink Rule"... but that's another thing for another day.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by nerdy on Thursday June 18, 2015 @07:58AM
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Sometimes you don't have a day to wait, even just an hour or two can help your cooler-self prevail.
I also draft immediately. The facts are fresh and you're passionate, get it all down so you can sift through it later. I try to make this the "final" draft even though I'm committed to reviewing it later.
Later when I return to the draft the first thing I do is delete everything which can be removed without loss of context. This usually removes a lot of the pissed-off "Let me tell YOU something about YOU that YOU don't know!"* stuff. If it isn't directly substantive it's probably inflammatory.
After it has been boiled down to relevant content take a step back and try to reflect humanely. Think about every lesson in compassion you've experienced in your life. Look the text over; how would you react to this e-mail if it were sent to you? Is even it really productive? Is it necessary? If so, try to think of a couple genuinely positive aspects of the situation— insincerity is only going to cause more discomfort. If there's nothing positive it might be important to do some reflection about why that's the case.
Remove accusatory tone; if you're not the boss (and even so...) then you should almost certainly be using more instances of "we" than "you" both literally and figuratively. Find the unresolved issues and recommend solution, try to supply the beginning of a solution as a token of your good faith despite whatever issues have arisen.
Review the whole message from the perspective of the recipient once more, a bit later if time permits.
This has worked really well for me, sometimes surprisingly so; people have gone from completely irate to "Okay, I'll take care of A and B!" It's pretty crazy.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by pbhjpbhj on Thursday June 18, 2015 @11:20AM
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That seems like an extraordinarily passive approach.
Depends on your measure of necessity to some extent but nonetheless there are many situations where you should say something but you're not required to.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by pbhjpbhj on Thursday June 18, 2015 @11:13AM
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If you put a letter in an addressed envelope there is a risk someone else might post/deliver it for you. If you've written a letter you may not want to send then it's probably worth guarding against that if your circumstances allow for such unwanted posting.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by learnstats2 on Thursday June 18, 2015 @06:01AM
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This was the most familiar:
"My eighth Rule. When you say, in your letter, “I enclose cheque for £5”, or “I enclose John’s letter for you to see”, leave off writing for a moment—go and get the document referred to—and put it into the envelope. Otherwise, you are pretty certain to find it lying about, after the Post has gone!"
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by shabble on Thursday June 18, 2015 @05:07AM
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Mentioned almost as an aside, but I'd never heard of 'cross-writing'[1] before, and now having looked a few examples, I can quite imagine how painful it would be to read.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by jerf on Thursday June 18, 2015 @10:23AM
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You know, CSS can do this too, nowadays. Perhaps some new... ah... "research"... is necessary to see whether this can increase our ability to read online as well.
It's that "April" sort of research one does, if you know what I mean.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by ableal on Thursday June 18, 2015 @11:26AM
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Sheesh. Thanks for digging that up. I thought Carrol was simply referring to something I've seen done in postcards (and maybe a couple of old letters): having left a generous left margin, and running out of space at the bottom, the writer would finish sideways on said margin. I.e.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by bshimmin on Thursday June 18, 2015 @04:04AM
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The "On registering Correspondence" section is rather fascinating - neurotic, but probably extremely helpful for someone who received a large number of letters. I wonder what he would've made of "Inbox Zero"!
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by Tloewald on Thursday June 18, 2015 @07:53AM
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Exactly — the stuff on keeping a mail register essentially amounts to manually creating the equivalent of an email client, complete with tracking conversation threads, subject lines, figuring out which messages need replies, and which messages are urgent or require further action.
One thing which struck me is that his example numbering system had exceeded 22000, and I doubt he logged spam.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by keenerd on Thursday June 18, 2015 @09:57AM
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> his example numbering system had exceeded 22000
There was a lot of correspondence going around. In Carroll's time, good cities would deliver and pick up mail from your home four times a day. (And now plenty of people check their email less often.)
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by snake_plissken on Thursday June 18, 2015 @12:58PM
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I consider writing letters the top way to actually keep in touch, even if no one ever writes back, and it is a great exercise of the mind and body. When I first started writing letters, I was astounded by how difficult it was to write legible and coherent sentences. There were a lot of scribbled out words or sections and it was like I had forgotten how to write. It's very different from writing notes or the everyday writing that you do.
I don't do it that often, I think on average my friends who have moved away get 1 or 2 a year, but I usually include some extra stuff like a thumb drive with some music/mixes or a trinket I happened to buy that I thought someone would appreciate.
Also IMHO, there is also something sepcial about getting a package or letter in the mail that is unexpected and isn't a pre-approved credit card.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by ta92929 on Thursday June 18, 2015 @09:16AM
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The point about putting your full address on the letter reminds me of Microsoft Outlook's irritating habit of stripping email addresses when forwarding emails.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by imglorp on Thursday June 18, 2015 @08:38AM
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Surprisingly, it turns out the "Wonderland Stamp Case" was a real product: an Alice themed folder with slots for the different types of stamps. Who thought merchandising a fiction franchise started with George Lucas?
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by suprfnk on Thursday June 18, 2015 @08:26AM
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"And never, never, dear Madam (N.B. this remark is addressed to ladies only: no man would ever do such a thing), put “Wednesday”, simply, as the date!"
"A Postscript is a very useful invention: but it is not meant (as so many ladies suppose) to contain the real gist of the letter"
Interesting to see how society has changed in a hundred years. This would probably cause a bit of a fuss if it were written today.
Re:Eight or Nine Wise Words about Letter-Writing by Lewis Ca...
by JoeAltmaier on Thursday June 18, 2015 @08:35AM
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Yeah, today instead of an amusing observation that celebrates our differences, it would become fodder to feed a conflict. It really was a gentler time.
I have a similar policy. Upon receiving an email that makes me hyperventilate even a little, or sets my pulse racing just a bit, by all means draft a reply immediately -- frequently emotional and full of invective -- but the set it aside for at least 24 hours. 48 in more severe cases. Then, and only then, re-read the message that got me all hot and bothered in the first place, re-read my draft reply (assuming I did that) and then redraft as needed before hitting "Send".
I call this my "24-hour Rule" and apply it always.
Then there's the "Never Hit Send While After Even a Single Drink Rule"... but that's another thing for another day.
I also draft immediately. The facts are fresh and you're passionate, get it all down so you can sift through it later. I try to make this the "final" draft even though I'm committed to reviewing it later.
Later when I return to the draft the first thing I do is delete everything which can be removed without loss of context. This usually removes a lot of the pissed-off "Let me tell YOU something about YOU that YOU don't know!"* stuff. If it isn't directly substantive it's probably inflammatory.
After it has been boiled down to relevant content take a step back and try to reflect humanely. Think about every lesson in compassion you've experienced in your life. Look the text over; how would you react to this e-mail if it were sent to you? Is even it really productive? Is it necessary? If so, try to think of a couple genuinely positive aspects of the situation— insincerity is only going to cause more discomfort. If there's nothing positive it might be important to do some reflection about why that's the case.
Remove accusatory tone; if you're not the boss (and even so...) then you should almost certainly be using more instances of "we" than "you" both literally and figuratively. Find the unresolved issues and recommend solution, try to supply the beginning of a solution as a token of your good faith despite whatever issues have arisen.
Review the whole message from the perspective of the recipient once more, a bit later if time permits.
This has worked really well for me, sometimes surprisingly so; people have gone from completely irate to "Okay, I'll take care of A and B!" It's pretty crazy.
* Ron White reference
1. Does this have to be said?
2. Does it have to be said now?
3. Does it have to be said by me?
If you can't answer all three questions with a strong and affirmative yes, then delete the statement.
[1] "Do I speak at the right time, or not?
[2] "Do I speak of facts, or not?
[3] "Do I speak gently or harshly?
[4] "Do I speak profitable words or not?
[5] "Do I speak with a kindly heart, or inwardly malicious?
Depends on your measure of necessity to some extent but nonetheless there are many situations where you should say something but you're not required to.
But when it comes to important emails, I always leave the recipient field blank until I'm sure this is what I want to send.
"My eighth Rule. When you say, in your letter, “I enclose cheque for £5”, or “I enclose John’s letter for you to see”, leave off writing for a moment—go and get the document referred to—and put it into the envelope. Otherwise, you are pretty certain to find it lying about, after the Post has gone!"
[1] http://blog.paperblanks.com/2013/03/cross-writing/
It's that "April" sort of research one does, if you know what I mean.
Perhaps it'd be easier if a different coloured ink was used for the cross sentences?
One thing which struck me is that his example numbering system had exceeded 22000, and I doubt he logged spam.
There was a lot of correspondence going around. In Carroll's time, good cities would deliver and pick up mail from your home four times a day. (And now plenty of people check their email less often.)
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/06/08/go-ask-alice-a-...
I don't do it that often, I think on average my friends who have moved away get 1 or 2 a year, but I usually include some extra stuff like a thumb drive with some music/mixes or a trinket I happened to buy that I thought someone would appreciate.
Also IMHO, there is also something sepcial about getting a package or letter in the mail that is unexpected and isn't a pre-approved credit card.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Wonderland+Stamp+Case&t=ffcm&iax=1...
"A Postscript is a very useful invention: but it is not meant (as so many ladies suppose) to contain the real gist of the letter"
Interesting to see how society has changed in a hundred years. This would probably cause a bit of a fuss if it were written today.