Re:Cuba's “Internet” is a thumb drive that moves by bus
by vidarh on Monday June 15, 2015 @11:47AM
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The nationalisations that caused the first trade embargo followed hostile moves from the Eisenhower administration by e.g. reducing trade quotas and through the refusal of an American owned refinery to sell to the Cuban government. The rest of the nationalisation followed as a retaliation against the that trade embargo.
Basically Eisenhower shot himself in the foot by first rebuffing early advances by Castro that sent Castro head first into the arms of the Soviets, and then it just got worse from that.
It had nothing to do with ideology on either side, but with money and power.
Re:Cuba's “Internet” is a thumb drive that moves by bus
by ArkyBeagle on Monday June 15, 2015 @01:07PM
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America was shocked by the nationalizations in Mexico in the decades before, so it's unsurprising that this was considered bad form. Embargo was always the escalation of choice then.
I believe Castro was also pretty Marxist well before 1959. That would have constrained what any politician in the US could have done.
Re:Cuba's “Internet” is a thumb drive that moves by bus
by AngrySkillzz on Monday June 15, 2015 @12:00PM
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Your second point is pretty hollow, as there are MANY nations that we trade with that violate the basic human rights of their own citizens or those in neighboring countries/territories.
Re:Cuba's “Internet” is a thumb drive that moves by bus
by humanrebar on Monday June 15, 2015 @12:12PM
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My point is that there are points more tangible than ideological differences. I honestly don't have a dog in this fight, but I think there are fair points on the other side of things that are being glossed over instead of addressed.
That sort of hand waving does a disservice to history. Initially the embargo was enacted because Cuba nationalized industries without providing fair compensation (a).
It's true that the embargoes have been more ideological since then, but the ideology is that fairly basic human rights (life, liberty, free speech) should be respected (b).
All that being said, the Castros are pretty entrenched. Maybe healthier interaction with Cuba would promote human rights faster. But you don't have to make straw man assertions to make that point.
a) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_...
b) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba#Political...