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Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by caryhartline on Saturday June 13, 2015 @07:13PM (#9713108)
Is it a guise of privacy when iAds is actually more private? Google has already done this with blocking Flash ads which blocks their own ad network as well.
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by kibwen on Saturday June 13, 2015 @07:51PM (#9713214)
It is indeed more private, and I welcome the move. Users need choice. But let's not overlook the obvious bid here to entice content providers into Apple's walled garden while also taking a direct swipe at the business model of their biggest competitor.
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by stephenr on Saturday June 13, 2015 @09:46PM (#9713521)
The content blockers stuff is not a "block Google" checkbox.

It's a way a safari extension on OS X or iOS can prevent load or hide literally any object requested by the browser/web view

It won't affect Google ads if they're in loaded in native apps.

Personally I view this as being inevitable given their recent high profile privacy push. I'm not saying they weren't pro-privacy before, but they're enhancing and promoting that factor more now than ever.

Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by kibwen on Sunday June 14, 2015 @02:19AM (#9713922)
It won't affect Google ads if they're loaded in native apps, but what's keeping Apple from ousting Google ads from their platform entirely? iOS doesn't have a monopoly on mobile, so Google would have no recourse if Apple decided that all new apps must use iAd rather than AdMob. App developers wouldn't care, advertisers wouldn't care, and users definitely wouldn't care.
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by stephenr on Sunday June 14, 2015 @02:36AM (#9713956)
Some developers may care. I'm not saying they should or shouldn't do that, I'm just saying that while this can be used to prevent GA tracking via web ads it isn't an out-and-out attack on googles ad network
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by jimmaswell on Sunday June 14, 2015 @12:22AM (#9713702)
Are free websites going to last much longer if we keep attacking ads?
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by stephenr on Sunday June 14, 2015 @12:38AM (#9713729)
I'd take you more seriously if you referred to them as "ad supported websites" rather than "free" websites.
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by kbenson on Sunday June 14, 2015 @01:39AM (#9713836)
I think "free" is the most accurate succinct terminology to be used here, when used with it's most common definition. An ad-supported site/service can still cost money to use (e.g. Hulu Plus), so just referring to a site as ad-supported to distinguish the business model is no clearer than calling it free. The way to resolve this is to be more explicit, such as saying it's "monetarily free".

But we all knew what was meant, so why bother?

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Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by spdustin on Sunday June 14, 2015 @11:44AM (#9715267)
I am desperate for the time when my karma is high enough to down vote people who use "autism" as a means to condescend or insult.

In the meantime, I'll just politely ask: Please stop doing that.

Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by dang on Sunday June 14, 2015 @03:17PM (#9716014)
You can flag a comment like that by clicking on its timestamp to go to its page, then clicking 'flag'. If enough users do so, the comment will be flag-killed. That's happened here.

Please don't post comments like this, though, which only dilute the thread further.

Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by seanp2k2 on Sunday June 14, 2015 @01:39AM (#9713837)
Yeah; Google seems to make quite a bit of coin off their "free" search engine and with their "free" maps website.

As for why bother discussing this: I don't think I'm alone in believing in a better B2C business model for the internet than "we'll get lots of users to spend lots of time with our thing, then make them look at ads". It's been said many times here before, but I'll repeat that it seems like a waste to have so many smart and talented people spending so much time on making people look at ads.

Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by duaneb on Sunday June 14, 2015 @04:00AM (#9714127)
Ads aren't being attacked, they're being ignored. This is a reflection of that.
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by jimmaswell on Sunday June 14, 2015 @11:05AM (#9715128)
Ads seem to be paid attention to enough for webmasters to bother using them. Vendors blocking them by default could be problematic
Re:Introduction to WebKit Content Blockers by cpeterso on Monday June 15, 2015 @03:36AM (#9718003)
Google/DoubleClick has been using Swiffy to convert their customers' Flash ads to non-Flash HTML/SVG for mobile websites. It would be easy to use Swiffy ads on desktop, too. If other ad networks can't convert Flash ads, then ad agencies that want to continue use their Flash toolchain will move to Google/Doubleclick's ad network (to get Swiffy) thanks to a change in Google's own browser (which also happens to be the world's most popular browser).