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Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by hellbanTHIS on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @08:02PM (#9696513)
The new thing they're trying is what you could call "gross-bait" ads, one gem that comes to mind is the girl's legs with indentations in them and white things coming out.

I'm not even sure they're selling anything anymore, most web ads seem more like psychological warfare.

How about a subscription service - and it could be a voluntary honor system thing - where you pay something each month and it gets distributed to websites you visit, and in order for a site to register with the service they have to forgo advertising. I'd pay $10 a month to do my part to rid the world of web ads. Somebody steal that idea.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by lewisl9029 on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @08:09PM (#9696543)
> Somebody steal that idea.

Google already did:

https://www.google.com/contributor/welcome/

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by hellbanTHIS on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @08:11PM (#9696551)
Well, shit.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by minthd on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @08:21PM (#9696595)
>>I'd pay $10 a month to do my part to rid the world of web ads.

I read somewhere that the number is close to $70/family/month, growing at %10 per year. Would you still pay ? Would this model even fit most people ?

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by RodericDay on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @08:45PM (#9696689)
Those families are indirectly paying that price today, through their ad-influenced purchases.

Not only are they paying for the end-product, but they're paying for the arms-race between advertisers as well, and that's a huge industry.

The amount of money the ad industry deals out to "content providers" must necessarily be less than the amount they get paid by their clients, which in turn must be less than the amount people paid to those clients.

If the distribution is not uniform, and some people benefit from the ad-influenced overspending of others, the business is then predatory.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by nothis on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:29PM (#9696881)
That's an interesting way to look at it, if I understand it correctly: Advertising itself is a problematic concept. Why should we weep? Everyone would be equally affected by this, it's not like someone is getting an advantage. Maybe this hurting advertising is a net positive for all of us. It forces people to actually pay for stuff directly rather than by being subconsciously tricked into buying more of the stuff advertised, later.

The worst case scenario I have seen people come up with is more sponsored articles but I doubt that is a sustainable business model. Honestly, I never understood why I can read the New York Times online for free. I'm not feeling bad about it, but it's fucking strange. Baby steps, but I really hope something like Contributor (https://www.google.com/contributor/welcome/) becomes popular. Preferably not run by google.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by minthd on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:51PM (#9696975)
I agree - the direct , and especially indirect price[1] people pay for ads is huge.

[1]ads have a huge impact on society and on the psych of people.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by Nursie on Thursday June 11, 2015 @08:26AM (#9699215)
Indeed.

When tobacco advertising was banned in the UK, tobacco profits soared because they no longer had to take part in the arms race.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by rayiner on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:29PM (#9696880)
I'd pay hundreds of dollars a month to be free of all the ads that bombard me from every fucking direction every fucking waking minute of my life. I'd love Apple to get so big and monopolistic they could curate the Internet, and you'd just pay them a monthly fee and they'd pass a percentage on to the sites you visited.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by cmdrfred on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @10:34PM (#9697124)
I will set up a proxy for you for a mere 99 dollars a month.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by S4M on Thursday June 11, 2015 @08:17AM (#9699155)
> I'd love Apple to get so big and monopolistic they could curate the Internet

So basically just for your own comfort you'd like a big company to become monopolistic and force its views on the web? I am not found of ads myself, but I think they are a better alternative to what you describe.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by macintux on Thursday June 11, 2015 @09:21AM (#9699511)
In other words, roughly AOL. That didn't end well.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by harryh on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @10:24PM (#9697093)
Adblock?
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by rayiner on Thursday June 11, 2015 @08:46AM (#9699311)
I use it on my desktops, but feel kind of like I'm littering. I would like to pay for the content if possible. Also, where do I get ad block for IRL. Some airports have ads on their escalator handles now.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by hellbanTHIS on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:02PM (#9696765)
Found a link: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-ad-free-in...

>of the 316 million people living in the U.S. are online, according to recent estimates by Pew Research Center and Forrester Research, that would equate to roughly $159 per person per year

So yeah about $50 for a family of four per month.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by malkia on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:07PM (#9696782)
I would pay for this site, reddit, google search, maps and gmail.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by dylan604 on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:40PM (#9696939)
Why would you pay for anything from Google? They are already making loads off of you by reading/scanning your email, saving all of your search queries, and noting all of your locations via maps. They then sell all of that information. Haven't you paid them enough already to then have to fork over actual money?
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by kalleboo on Thursday June 11, 2015 @03:47AM (#9698256)
> They then sell all of that information

Source? Their product is ad targeting. Selling the data itself would devalue their product.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by malkia on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @10:55PM (#9697180)
If it ever comes to alternative non-ads form, I would consider this way.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by antimatter on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @08:17PM (#9696577)
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by hellbanTHIS on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @08:38PM (#9696662)
Sounds like Readability was blocking all ads and then saying "come find us so we can pay you, even though we never told you we were doing this, oops too late".

Plus since then there's been the invention of these Taboola and Outbrain type ads which are like the ISIS of advertising. Because of them I'm sensing a lot more people are ready to declare war on web ads.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by millstone on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @11:08PM (#9697216)
I didn't know what Taboola or Outbrain was so I searched and found this: https://newthealarmclock.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/screen-... and I recognized them. Very tabloid-style.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by hellbanTHIS on Thursday June 11, 2015 @07:01AM (#9698861)
If they were always pics of nice looking girls in bikinis nobody would have a problem, usually they look like this: http://digiday.com/publishers/is-this-the-worst-page-on-the-...
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by huehehue on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:42PM (#9696945)
Re the service: a while back I had the idea that people could add a TXT record containing their BTC/PayPal/etc address and, as long as there existed a loose formatting standard, users could install an extension that activated when it detected you were on a site that accepted donations.

For obvious reasons, it would fall apart for sites like Medium, but I was attached to the idea.

Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by btown on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:54PM (#9696990)
Why not just a <meta name="payment"> HTML tag?
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by huehehue on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @11:06PM (#9697209)
That would certainly work, with the added benefit of value changes by page; however, I imagine it would require more work to display on every page. There are too many ways to serve web pages, and having to change your site like that seems like a potential turn-off for an already [negative adjective here] platform.
Re:The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iP... by jndetlefsen on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @09:35PM (#9696922)