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Re:Secret compartments by wouterinho on Monday November 30, 2009 @03:39PM (#968630)
Content aside, surely I'm not the only one annoyed by having to click 7 times to see the whole "article"?
Re:Secret compartments by peoplerock on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @07:38AM (#969616)
You mean the 'business model' of "annoy the piss out of site visitors for sake of more ad views"?

Well, it's one approach to trying to rescue the Boston Globe from death.

...one destined to lead to online (as well as on-paper) death - in my humble hope.

Re:Secret compartments by asciilifeform on Monday November 30, 2009 @02:11PM (#968442)
For those genuinely engaged in something covert, texts like this (or like this: http://www.loompanics.com/Underground_Economy/underground_bo...) are for learning what not to do. Your enemy (whoever it may be) also knows how to read.
Re:Secret compartments by tlb on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @12:36AM (#969300)
So once all subterfuges have been published, no subterfuges will work any more?

In a world with a finite number of spies, most spies are not being watched by other spies at most times. And spies assigned to watch a particular target spy are generally less highly trained than the target. Simple tricks to avoid attracting attention from casual observers are still useful.

Re:Secret compartments by asciilifeform on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @06:06PM (#971021)
> Simple tricks to avoid attracting attention from casual observers are still useful.

Correct.

And methods such as molding cocaine into faux PVC pipes are not, precisely because they are interesting/memorable and end up documented in customs agents' handbooks.

Re:Secret compartments by brown9-2 on Monday November 30, 2009 @02:58PM (#968536)
I'd be curious to hear any real-life stories behind slide #3 ("Patterns in shoelaces can carry messages").

Do they mean can as in theoretically? Because I could also theoretically carry a message based on myriad other things as well.

Seems like you'd have to get really, really close to a person to be able to read their shoelaces for the patterns in the second and third images.

Re:Secret compartments by chrischen on Monday November 30, 2009 @04:37PM (#968746)
They might just be patterns for predetermined messages. So they are probably very distinct patterns.
Re:Secret compartments by chronomex on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @06:50AM (#969590)
My shoelaces cross over each other four times in each shoe. Using the different directions of crossing, that's eight undetectable bits. You can do a lot with eight bits.
Re:Secret compartments by StrawberryFrog on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @07:30AM (#969611)
But read subltle differences in shoe-lace patterns after a glance and cross-reference with the list of meanings? Hard. They'd just look like a mess to me. I suspect that the most you can get out of it reliably is about 2 bits, so four signals, including one zero state meaning "no message".
Re:Secret compartments by chrischen on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @05:22PM (#970933)
That's what training is for. To the untrained eye it may seem hard to distinguish.
Re:Secret compartments by yosho on Monday November 30, 2009 @03:51PM (#968652)
Anyone have any other cool James Bond tricks?
Re:Secret compartments by wallflower on Monday November 30, 2009 @04:06PM (#968677)
Spy on BBC was addicting to watch. Among other things you learn is that if someone is tailing you, there are two others tailing you (for redundancy).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spy_(TV_series)

Re:Secret compartments by chrischen on Monday November 30, 2009 @04:35PM (#968742)
Folding paper to make it smaller: is this really a magic trick? I mean I know it gets harder with every fold, but it's not really that cool.
Re:Secret compartments by bodhi on Monday November 30, 2009 @06:49PM (#968958)
I think the trick was folding it with one hand
Re:Secret compartments by chrischen on Monday November 30, 2009 @07:41PM (#969018)
Yea I noticed that, but still kind of trivial.
Re:Secret compartments by bodhi on Monday November 30, 2009 @08:12PM (#969044)
True, but it'd be a neat party trick, along similar lines to shuffling a deck of cards in one hand.
Re:Secret compartments by chrischen on Monday November 30, 2009 @09:32PM (#969123)
I suppose, but only if one does it really, really fast.