Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

Re:Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell by zokier on Tuesday June 02, 2015 @03:19PM (#9648285)

Those sound nice-to-have features, but (personally) I don't think the lack of those makes something "super clunky and awkward to use", especially in comparison to standard terminals. Do you think xterm is too super clunky because it lacks all the bells and whistles?

I still do not see where the lack of empathy and tastelessness is apparent in ISE.

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Re:Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell by eropple on Tuesday June 02, 2015 @03:29PM (#9648344)

I don't think xterm is clunky, no. It doesn't try to help me, but it also doesn't get in my way. iTerm2's feature set does not increase the friction of dealing with the shell inside of it. Literally every time I have to open up ISE, I go, "jesus, why the hell is it doing things?". The experience is just straight-up repellent. It's hard to really describe past "I'd rather click a mouse than use this." And that never happens elsewhere.

But anyway, your "nice to haves" are my "it's 2015, I'm not wasting my time with less." Microsoft's got more money than God, they can do something worth the time of day.

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Re:Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell by zokier on Tuesday June 02, 2015 @03:45PM (#9648446)

Honestly, I'm getting really interested in what you find so offensive in ISE. I mean, I can see it being not so great, but being straight out offensive I can't really understand. It is perfectly understandable if you don't like PowerShell (it is kinda weird). But ISE? The most different thing in it is a "fancy" tab-completion, and that hardly can be reason to so deep hatred.

And I'm not saying ISE is the best thing ever or anything, but it is a significant step up from conhost, and honestly not really lot worse than xterm in many ways.

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