Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by chadzawistowski on Friday May 29, 2015 @06:43PM
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It's worth pointing out that Natural Gas is an extremely clean fossil fuel, as far as fossil fuels go. It's a shame that so much is simply burnt off rather than harnessed. That doesn't help anyone.
Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by avn2109 on Friday May 29, 2015 @06:46PM
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Yeah, from a purely non-political, engineering-only perspective, nuclear power and desalination seem like a match made in heaven: No carbon; steady, predictable power loads; near-limitless demand for agricultural freshwater in CA; near-guaranteed markets because of indefinite CA droughts; even a chance to do something useful with the waste heat.
Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by hyperbovine on Friday May 29, 2015 @07:01PM
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No, no, no. Desal is not ever going to be used to irrigate crops in California. You would need to build something like 100 of the largest desal plants in existence to meet the ag demand (~= 100k AF/day). Oh and a way to pump it all a hundred miles inland, over a coastal mountain range. Also, there are significant environmental impacts associated with both desal and nukes which you have completely ignored. Pretend like technology is going to rush in and save the day delays our transition to a realistic, sustainable way of life.
Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by randallsquared on Friday May 29, 2015 @08:26PM
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Civilizationally, technology has pretty much always saved the day.
Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by ars on Friday May 29, 2015 @06:55PM
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> Making natural gas cheaper should not be one of our priorities. It's non-renewable and contributes to carbon emissions.
Your attitude is WHY there is so much CO2 emission.
If everyone switched to natural gas no one would worry about global warming. You would not be happy if CO2 emission was slashed in half in one go? Because that's what switching to natural gas would do.
Instead people bash it because it's not perfect.
Quite the opposite: If you actually cared about climate change cheaper natural gas would be your top priority.
Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by marssaxman on Friday May 29, 2015 @07:16PM
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Natural gas may be a step on the way but it is obviously not a destination.
Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by ars on Friday May 29, 2015 @07:28PM
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Sure, but it's still an extremely useful step. Fighting against it does not help the environment.
Re:Water Revolution in Israel Overcomes Any Threat of Drought
by marssaxman on Friday May 29, 2015 @07:49PM
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From my understanding it's not unreasonable that someone whose goal is not "reduce CO2 emissions" but "reduce CO2 missions to a sustainable level" might see natural gas as a waste of time, diverting energy that might be better spent on a long-term solution.
Making natural gas cheaper should not be one of our priorities. It's non-renewable and contributes to carbon emissions.